Trump's Ceasefire: From bunker bombs to F bombs
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🗓️ 24 June 2025
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Summary
Publicly at least, most American Presidents have "held their tongue" over their disputes with Israel - Trump is a "different kettle of fish."
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The Trump-brokered ceasefire between Israel and Iran has gotten off to a shaky start. Both sides have accused the other of violating the agreement, with Israel incurring the expletive-laden wrath of the US president in the process. So what happens now?
In this episode Anoosh Chakelian is joined by Megan Gibson and Freddie Hayward to unpack the latest developments and possible outcomes in the Middle East and at this week's NATO summit.
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| 0:00.0 | The New Statesman. |
| 0:05.5 | First there was a ceasefire, then there was none. Now Donald Trump is very angry. |
| 0:11.4 | We basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don't know |
| 0:17.5 | what the fuck they're doing. Do you understand that? I'm Anousa Kellyan and this is the New Statesman podcast. Iran and Israel officially agreed to a |
| 0:25.7 | ceasefire on Monday night, but only after Donald Trump surprised the world by announcing it on |
| 0:30.0 | social media. But peace didn't last long. On Tuesday morning, Israel announced they detected a missile |
| 0:36.2 | launch from Iran and promised to retaliate with powerful strikes. |
| 0:39.9 | Iran has denied breaking the ceasefire agreement. |
| 0:42.9 | As we record, Donald Trump joins other world leaders in the Hague for the NATO summit, |
| 0:47.1 | in which the UK will promise to increase defence spending to 5% of GDP by 2035. |
| 0:52.3 | But before he left Washington, Trump had a furious exchange with reporters outside the White House, |
| 0:57.0 | swearing and saying he's not happy with Israel |
| 0:59.0 | and will get it to calm down. |
| 1:01.2 | Joining me in the studio are Freddie Hayward, our US correspondent, |
| 1:04.4 | and Megan Gibson, our foreign editor. |
| 1:06.9 | Events are really fast moving, |
| 1:08.2 | so I should tell our listeners we're recording on Tuesday afternoon, |
| 1:14.6 | and we'll come on to the NATO Summit and and Kierstama's defence spending pledge later. But first of all, let's just go over what's been happening. |
| 1:17.6 | I mean, Freddie, for about an hour this morning, it looked as if things had de-escalated, haven't it? |
| 1:21.6 | It seemed briefly like Trump's announcement of a ceasefire had worked. |
| 1:24.6 | Can you sort of take us through the roller coaster of his announcement and what happened? |
| 1:28.3 | Yeah, so he posted on Truth Social last night that there was this ceasefire. |
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