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It's Been a Minute

Trump's Bad Business Comes Back To Bite

It's Been a Minute

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🗓️ 2 July 2021

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

This week, the Trump Organization and its Chief Financial Officer were charged with fraud and tax related crimes by the Manhattan District Attorney as a result of a years-long investigation. In light of these new charges, Sam revisits his conversation from last fall with Andrea Bernstein, co-host of the WNYC & ProPublica podcast Trump, Inc. They talk about Trump's business operations, debts, and how the biggest lesson from both is "we pay, he wins."

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0:00.0

Hey y'all, this is Sam's Aunt Betty. This week, a history of the investigations into

0:06.6

Donald Trump and his businesses. All right, let's start the channel.

0:12.9

Hey y'all, you're listening to It's Been A Minute from NPR. I'm Sam Sanders.

0:17.2

This week, the Manhattan District Attorney announced charges against the Trump

0:21.2

Organization and this chief financial officer, Alan Weiselberg, on fraud and tax crimes.

0:26.4

This is a development in a story that's been going on for a while. For the past three years,

0:32.7

D.A. Cyrus Vance has been investigating former President Donald Trump's real estate business.

0:37.6

The same business that made Trump a household name, a television star, and ultimately,

0:42.7

the President of this country. These are the first criminal charges to arise from that probe.

0:48.0

Donald Trump himself does not currently face any charges, but the investigation continues.

0:53.7

And we should point out here that Vance was also working with New York AG,

0:57.3

Latisha James. She had launched a separate civil investigation of Trump.

1:02.7

So I actually talked to journalist Andrea Bernstein about all of this stuff last November.

1:08.0

At that time, she co-hosted a whole podcast series about this very topic.

1:12.3

It's called Trump Inc. and it's from WNYC in ProPublica. When I talked to her, I was having a very

1:18.3

hard time keeping track of all the investigations and lawsuits against Trump and what they all added

1:23.3

up to. Now we know a little bit more. And hopefully, this episode can help remind you of how we got here.

1:30.4

So listeners, enjoy here is my November 2020 chat with Andrea Bernstein.

1:40.8

Good morning. Thank you for being here. We are now nine days away from the inauguration of the

1:45.2

next President and Vice President of the United States. It's an opportunity to be here today,

1:49.7

to allow the President-elect to take your questions. I want to take you back to another time

1:55.4

before this year's presidential election, before the pandemic, before Donald Trump officially took

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