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The Dispatch Podcast

Trump or Baby Hitler? | Roundtable

The Dispatch Podcast

The Dispatch

Politics, News

4.4 • 3K Ratings

🗓️ 17 May 2024

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

Donald Trump and Joe Biden have agreed to a debate and no one knows who benefits. Steve and Jonah join Sarah to make some predictions about the upcoming presidential debate and discuss how you should think about your vote. The Agenda: —The debate —Why did Biden agree to this? —White House operatives’ blind spots —RFK Jr. not invited to the debate —“Never Trump” vs. “Never Again” —Would Jonah vote against American baby Hitler? —How you should think about your vote —Jonah for President —Official judicial ruling: tacos and burritos are sandwiches Show Notes: —Nick Catoggio: Let’s Get Ready to Bumble —NYT: Biden’s approval ratings —High Steaks —Axios: Biden’s polling denial —Biden accepts the debate —Biden’s “Free on Wednesday” T-shirts —Pod Save America with Jen Psaki —Polling on who people trust with info on Ukraine —The Bulwark with Steve Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

While you're listening to this podcast, I'm causing mischief.

0:05.0

Like creeping past sleepy granddad to sneak a pot of Petty Faloo from the fridge.

0:12.0

Because Petty Fal Lou fuels the mischief.

0:15.0

Boom!

0:16.0

Mom says that Petty for Lou is made with calcium and vitamin D for healthy bones. She knows best, most of the time.

0:27.0

Fueling mischief with petty flu.

0:30.0

Welcome to the Dispatch Podcast, I'm Sarah Isger, Jonah Goldberg, Steve Hayes. Thank you so much for being here today.

0:37.6

It's our pleasure.

0:38.6

I'm surprised I got invited back after you guys had Megan McCardall. Like she were available, you wouldn't be here, Steve.

0:45.0

Very good. Very good. The biggest news I think from this week is that Joe Biden and Donald Trump have agreed

1:06.8

to debate one another one in June one in September no live audience and the mics are going to cut off the second year time's done from what we understand

1:16.5

Steve what is the metric of success for these two candidates?

1:22.1

Yeah I mean I think the obvious metric of success for Joe Biden is to appear on stage and conduct

1:30.1

himself without having a senior moment or without having extended senior moments. If he can sort of pass that very

1:38.8

sort of basic threshold test as as Nick wrote in his newsletter yesterday. It helps him reframe the race as a choice

1:48.4

between Donald Trump and Joe Biden rather than just a referendum on Joe Biden.

1:55.3

It reminds people early that this is a two-person race.

2:00.5

I think it's a hugely risky strategy for Biden because you know as we've seen in

2:07.3

recent days he struggles the key doesn't do this well I think I've mentioned on this podcast before I talked to some of the

2:14.4

people who were involved with debate prep for Joe Biden in 2020 and they were

2:19.7

worried about his ability to avoid these sort of verbal cul-de-sacs that he sometimes finds himself in.

2:28.4

And I think their concern has to be heightened in this case. So I think that's the most important

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