From WNYC Studios. I'm Brian Lehrer. This is my daily politics podcast. It's Friday, November 15th.

So there are at least two different ways we plan to have conversations on this show about the

incoming Trump administration. One is to have straight on this show about the incoming Trump administration.

One is to have straight up policy debates and policy analysis of policies that they implement

or policies that they propose. We'll get multiple points of view. We'll kick them around.

The other is kind of a fascism watch. You all know by now that there's so much concern from Trump's former top

national security officials and others that he wants to actually change the nature of

governance in the United States from the democracy that it is, imperfect as it is, to more

of a strong man authoritarian model of government, right, with fewer checks and balances.

You know about Trump's previous Homeland Security Secretary and Defense Secretary and Joint

Chiefs of Staff Chairman, all using that word fascist to describe Trump or his aspirations.

So in addition to regular policy debates, we will have a stream of segments here that will be a fascism watch.

Maybe it's all just rhetoric and all just talk and there'll be nothing to see here.

I hope that's the case.

And if it is, that's what our guests and I will say.

But if it's more scary than that, if Trump and his appointees actually try to break

our democracy, will be obligated to call it out and call it by its name, and we will. So come here

for straight up policy debates and policy analysis, pros and cons, and come here for a

fascism watch as needed.

And on the latter, here we are just 10 days after the election, and there are already two

topics in play in the fascism watch file, at least two, two that I see.

One is that Trump is asking the Senate to voluntarily give up its role in the Constitution

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