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Political Gabfest

Trump Legal Traffic Jam

Political Gabfest

Slate Podcasts

Politics, Government, News

4.58.3K Ratings

🗓️ 20 July 2023

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

This week, Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and David Plotz are together again and talking about Donald Trump’s next indictment and the charges against his “false electors” in Michigan; the struggles of candidates Ron DeSantis, Tim Scott, et al.; and Congressional Republicans’ culture war against the U.S. military. Here are some notes and references from this week’s show: James Madison: “Impeachment of the Executive, [20 July] 1787” FiveThirtyEight: “Who’s Ahead In Republican Primary Polls?” Fox News Digital: “Republican presidential candidate Sen. Tim Scott says Donald Trump is ‘overqualified to be my vice president’” Manu Raju, Rashard Rose, and Lauren Fox for CNN: “Tommy Tuberville now says ‘White nationalists are racists’ after refusing to denounce them” Zoë Richards for NBC News: “Arizona Republican refers to Black Americans as ‘colored people’ in House floor debate” Here are this week’s chatters: Emily: Elise White, Basaime Spate, Javonte Alexander, and Rachel Swaner for the Center for Justice Innovation: “’Two Battlefields’: Opps, Cops, and NYC Youth Gun Culture” and Charged: The New Movement to Transform American Prosecution and End Mass Incarceration by Emily Bazelon John: Mona El-Naggar, Johan M. Kessel, and Alexander Stockton for The New York Times: “What Is War to a Grieving Child?”; Jeanna Smialek and Ben Casselman for The New York Times: “The Pandemic’s Labor Market Myths”; and Chris Cameron for The New York Times: “Over 700 Civil War-Era Gold Coins Found Buried on a Kentucky Farm” David: “Exploring a Secret Fort” with David through airbnb; Steve Bohnel for The Frederick News-Post: “$200,000, or the city burns: The story of the Confederacy’s ransom on Frederick”; and Caity Weaver for The New York Times Magazine: “My Impossible Mission to Find Tom Cruise” Listener chatter from Dianne Denton: Harriet McBryde Johnson for The New York Times Magazine: “Unspeakable Conversations” and Disability Visibility: First-Person Stories from the Twenty-First Century by Alice Wong For this week’s Slate Plus bonus segment, David, John, and Emily discuss the Hollywood actors’ and writers’ strikes, artificial intelligence, and the future of work. In the next edition of Gabfest Reads, David talks with David Grann about his book, The Wager: A Tale of Shipwreck, Mutiny and Murder. Email your chatters, questions, and comments to [email protected] or Tweet us @SlateGabfest. (Messages may be quoted by name unless the writer stipulates otherwise.) Podcast production by Cheyna Roth Research by Julie Huygen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, and welcome to the Slate Political Gap Fest.

0:16.5

July 20th, 2023, the Trump Legal Traffic Jam edition.

0:21.0

I'm David Plots of CityCast in Washington, DC.

0:24.4

I'm joined by John Dickerson of CBS Prime Time from New York City.

0:28.1

Hello, John.

0:29.1

Hello, David.

0:30.1

And hello, Emily.

0:31.1

Even though you haven't introduced yet, I feel it's always weird to not say hello to Emily.

0:34.8

That is true.

0:35.8

That is true.

0:36.8

I appreciate it.

0:37.8

That's Emily Bowslone of the New York Times Magazine and Yale University Law School.

0:40.5

Just learned an amazing fact about how Emily does the show after, even after 17 years,

0:44.9

which is Emily records kneeling, which is insane.

0:49.3

And it's very prayerful, very prayerful, although not Jewish prayerful.

0:54.2

I was going to say, I always genuinely reflect to both of you, but that's mostly implied

0:59.0

this week on the Gap Fest, so, so many new legal twists and turns and challenges for

1:06.8

Donald Trump in the courts and for his allies in the courts, too.

1:11.8

Then why are all of Trump's Republican challengers bombing?

1:16.3

Then the Republican campaign against the woke military and why this campaign has gotten

1:21.9

so contentious and out of hand, plus, of course, we'll have cocktail chatter.

1:26.8

Hey there, Gap Fest listeners.

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