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The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

Trump Is Taking the Easy Way Out | Ruminant

The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Dispatch

Politics, News

4.6 • 6.3K Ratings

🗓️ 13 December 2025

⏱️ 88 minutes

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Summary

His head all aswirl with yet-to-be-released Remnants, Jonah Goldberg moseys on down to the swamp for a swim with the punditry alligators. Jonah covers the Indiana redistricting that was not, gunboat diplomacy, nonexistent mustard-gas whores, evil AI, amending the Constitution, and the d-bag of the year. Shownotes:—Furious Minds: The Making of the MAGA New Right—The Arena with Kasie Hunt—Dead metaphors G-File—Cocaine Is Not Mustard Gas G-File—A Man of Great Sideburns | Interview: James M. Bradley—The Dispatch's Charles Hilu on Congress and trade—Yoram Hazony's The Virtue of Nationalism—Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz Interview with Sam Tannenhaus, Vanity Fair—Economist - “When LLMs learn to take shortcuts, they become evil”—Yuval Levin's American Covenant: How the Constitution Unified Our Nation—and Could Again—Glenn Beck Interviews AI GEORGE WASHINGTON—Scott Lincicome: “The $140,000 ‘Poverty Line’ Is Laughably Wrong, So Why Does It Feel Right?” The Remnant is a production of ⁠The Dispatch⁠, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a non-partisan, conservative perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including access to all of Jonah’s G-File newsletters—⁠click here⁠. If you’d like to remove all ads from your podcast experience, consider becoming a premium Dispatch member ⁠by clicking here⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:06.2

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0:12.7

Get the full story. It's more than news. It's a trusted global perspective. The economist know which

0:19.0

way is up.

0:25.3

Hey, everyone, Steve Hayes with some big news from the dispatch. I want to tell you about dispatch hoontoes. Dispatch what? Honto, though some people pronounce it, Junto, is the name

0:32.3

Ben Franklin gave to the small gatherings he organized in Philadelphia taverns, starting in the 1720s.

0:38.3

Franklin's Hounthos, Spanish for Assembly or Council, consisted of 12 members, each of whom was

0:44.9

required to pledge that he, quote, loved truth for the truth's sake, unquote, and that he was

0:50.3

dedicated to personal growth for himself and improving his community.

0:55.0

These discussions at those junto meetings would contribute to the ideas that built our great country.

0:59.8

We launched dispatch juntoes without quite the same ambition, but with a deep conviction

1:04.0

about the need for a place where people can get together for civil and sane conversations

1:08.4

about the issues of the day. without the kind of nastiness and

1:12.6

posturing that's so prevalent on social media and elsewhere in our polarized politics.

1:17.4

The dispatch has hosted events across the country, and I've attended many of them.

1:21.0

I've been blown away by the turnout and the enthusiasm.

1:24.2

I've enjoyed having a beer or two with our members at each of these gatherings, and I think the real value for them has been the opportunity to meet one another.

1:31.3

I remember Nashville lingering at the bar at a great wing joint called Party Fowl with dispatch members after our hour-long program ended.

1:39.3

Our group talked for another hour at least, and they were so happy to have met one another, nobody even noticed when I slipped out.

1:46.3

I can't tell you how many times I heard something like, it's so great to be reminded that

1:51.0

there are other sane, normal people out here.

1:53.9

We're looking for dedicated dispatch members to organize regular meetups in their communities

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