Trump & Hegseth are Putting Troops in Difficult/Dangerous Circumstances - the Orders Project Can Help
Justice Matters with Glenn Kirschner
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🗓️ 11 December 2025
⏱️ 28 minutes
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Summary
Members of the military have a duty to obey lawful orders but must not obey patently unlawful orders. Given the administration's unlawful, deadly strikes in international waters, our troops are being put in difficult and dangerous circumstances by Donald Trump and Pete Hegseth.
The National Institute of Military Justice has created The Orders Project to provide real-time, informed advice for military members who are trying to lawfully navigate the difficult situation in which they are being put.
Glenn spoke with Treb Courie, Legal Director for The Orders Project, about the services available to our military members.
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| 0:00.0 | It's time for Justice Matters with former federal prosecutor and legal analyst Glenn Kirshman. |
| 0:15.7 | Today, Glenn speaks with the legal director of the Orders Project, Treb Corey, about help for military members who are given unlawful orders. |
| 0:25.4 | That's coming up next on Justice Matters one-on-one. |
| 0:34.8 | Hi, I'm John Fuglesing. |
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| 1:11.6 | Hey all, Glenn Kirshner here. |
| 1:18.6 | So friends, before I joined the Department of Justice, I was an active duty Army JAG officer for six and a half years. And what I see Pete Hegseth doing, |
| 1:31.8 | he's not leading the troops. He's misleading the troops. He's endangering the troops. The good |
| 1:41.1 | news is there is some help out there for military members who are trying to navigate |
| 1:47.0 | this impossibly difficult and dangerous position Donald Trump and Pete Hegeseth are putting them in. |
| 1:57.0 | It's called the Orders Project. |
| 2:20.3 | It's part of the National Institute of Military Justice, and I just had an opportunity to sit down with the legal director of the Orders Project, Treb Curry, to talk about this incredibly important service, free of charge, to all military members. So friends, I hope you'll share information about the Orders Project far and wide |
| 2:26.3 | because protecting our troops like justice matters. All right, friends, welcome back to another edition of Justice Matters, one-on-one. |
| 2:49.4 | I have to admit, I'm really excited to talk with |
| 2:51.7 | our guests today, Treb Corey. Treb is a retired Army Jag. He retired as a lieutenant colonel. We were |
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