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The Megyn Kelly Show

Trump FIRES Bondi, CIA's "MK Ultra" History, and "Two Weeks" Talking Point, with John Kiriakou, Sean Davis, and Sohrab Ahmari | Ep. 1287

The Megyn Kelly Show

SiriusXM

Society & Culture, News Commentary, News

4.438.5K Ratings

🗓️ 2 April 2026

⏱️ 101 minutes

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Summary

Megyn Kelly is joined by Sean Davis, CEO of The Federalist, and Sohrab Ahmari, U.S. Editor of UnHerd, to discuss reports that President Trump is about to fire Attorney General Pam Bondi, Bondi's challenges in handling the Epstein Files, Trump's reported frustration with the lack of prosecutions from the DOJ, reports Trump is considering firing DNI Tulsi Gabbard over her position on Iran, why Megyn hopes Gabbard doesn't leave, the implications for the coalition Trump built in 2024 if Gabbard leaves, and more. Then John Kiriakou, former CIA counterterrorism officer, joins to discuss the “two to three weeks” talking point that President Trump and Lindsey Graham are pushing about the Iran war, what really happens next with the war, the CIA’s “MK Ultra” origin story, the secrets of the CIA and FBI, why conspiracy theories are growing in a post-COVID world, how Israel tries to recruit CIA operatives, the influence Israel has on both Democrats and the GOP in Congress, how he got recruited into the CIA, the challenges of balancing marriages and relationships in covert CIA roles, and more. Davis- https://thefederalist.com/ Ahmari- https://unherd.com/ Kiriakou- https://johnkiriakou.com/ Relief Factor: Break up with pain—Relief Factor targets inflammation so you can move better and feel better; try the 3-Week QuickStart for just $19.95 at https://ReliefFactor.com or call 800-4-RELIEF. Quo: Make this the season where no opportunity slips away. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to https://www.Quo.com/MK Cozy Earth: Visit https://www.CozyEarth.com/MEGYN & Use code MEGYN for up to 20% off PureTalk: Save on wireless with PureTalk visit https://PureTalk.com/MEGYNKELLY

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Megan Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

0:12.2

Hey, everyone, I'm Megan Kelly. Welcome to the Megan Kelly Show. We've got a former CIA officer

0:16.7

coming on in just a bit who has some wild stories about being a spy and unique thoughts about

0:22.9

everything from the war in Iran to Jeffrey Epstein. And I'm really looking forward to this talk.

0:28.4

But we begin today with Trump's talking about regime change in Iran and the numerous reports

0:35.0

that he's planning big changes to his own administration.

0:39.1

That regime change does seem underway in some way, shape, or form.

0:42.9

Last night, the New York Times breaking the story that the president is considering firing

0:48.0

Attorney General Pam Bondi. Mr. Trump reportedly upset at her handling of the Epstein files and her lack of aggression

0:58.2

in going after his political enemies like New York Attorney General Letitia James and

1:04.2

former FBI director James Comey at all. The report was quickly confirmed by multiple

1:09.9

news outlets. According to the Times.

1:12.0

Mr. Trump is considering replacing Bondi with current EPA administrator Lee Zeldon and

1:18.6

semaphore this morning, a news outlet reporting that the president has informed Ms. Bondi

1:24.5

that, quote, her time as attorney general is nearing an end, end quote, and a formal

1:30.6

announcement is expected soon. As always, with Donald Trump, semaphore is reporting, he could

1:34.8

change his mind before going through with the plan, but that's not all. The Guardian, just as we came

1:41.2

to air, dropping a report that Donald Trump is privately polling his top advisors

1:46.5

about whether he should replace the Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard.

1:52.5

The answer is no. He shouldn't. The president apparently upset that Tulsi did not condemn

1:58.6

Joe Kent, the former National Counterterrorism Center

2:02.0

Director, who resigned over Joe's opposition to the war in Iran. Before he left the government,

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