Trump Brags About Insane Plot to Screw Musk: Wolff

The New Abnormal

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🗓️ 3 July 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Michael Wolff joins Joanna Coles to dissect the explosive feud between Elon Musk and Donald Trump—two billionaires with their own media platforms and no off switch. Wolff recounts how Musk, cast out by Trump, has resurfaced with threats to bankroll a third party and destabilize GOP control. Trump, ever theatrical, responds by smearing Musk as a drug-addled foreigner, even suggesting deportation. But beneath the chaos lies a real threat: Musk’s billions could tip the Senate and House, risking everything for Trump. Wolff warns this isn’t just noise—it’s a blood feud. And in Trump’s world, dominance matters more than governance.

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0:00.0	Fancy a fever tree and vodka.
0:03.8	Yes, vodka, not gin, because this is fever tree Mexican lime soda.
0:10.0	Yes, soda, not tonic.
0:12.9	With Mexican lime and Japanese yuzu for a zesty, refreshing lime soda that's just sweet enough.
0:19.6	Delicious with vodka or on its own. Fever tree, Mexican lime soda that's just sweet enough. Delicious with vodka or on its own.
0:23.1	Fever tree Mexican lime soda mix with the best.
0:27.7	Hmm, now that hits the spot.
0:31.9	Do you think Elon is crazy?
0:34.4	I think he's crazy.
0:35.9	I mean, all of these phones, he asks a question and then you respond, yes, of course. I think he's crazy. I mean, all of these ones, he asks a question and then you
0:38.9	respond, yes, of course. I think he's crazy. You agree with me. So he will now use everything
0:45.2	to paint Elon as the bad guy. I'm Joanna Cole's chief content officer of the Daily Beast and you are lying in the bath to walking your dog to ironing your clothes to or possibly cooking scrambled eggs to the Daily Beast podcast.
1:03.5	I am here with none other than Michael Wolf today, and we are recording this on the morning after the Senate approved the big beautiful bill
1:13.1	and sent it back to the House of Representatives for their comments, all to be done before the July the 4th holiday.
1:19.2	So we have no time to waste. And of course, Michael's favorite person is back in the ring with Donald Trump.
1:28.7	All right. Michael Wolfe is in the house. I am so excited. I'm also a little overwhelmed because
1:34.9	we haven't spoken for, I want to say, six days since which the world has turned. We've gone
1:40.8	in and out of the beautiful bill and they're back. Your favorite person is
1:45.8	back. Say those two words to me. Three words. Elon is back. Elon is back. Elon. I thought
1:52.1	you were going to elide them and just say Elon's back or he's back. Yeah, no, that's, I should have.
1:58.4	Good editing. Yeah, exactly.
2:01.4	Thank you.
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