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Open Source with Christopher Lydon

Trump at War

Open Source with Christopher Lydon

Christopher Lydon

Arts

4.71K Ratings

🗓️ 26 June 2025

⏱️ 47 minutes

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We’re in the Orwellian aftermath of what President Trump has called his 12-day war in the Middle East. It’s over, he proclaimed on Monday. “Congratulations world,” he said on his Truth Social site, “it’s time ...

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0:00.0

I'm Christopher Leiden, and this is open source in the Orwellian aftermath of what President Trump now calls his 12-day war in the Middle East.

0:09.3

It's over, he proclaimed on Monday.

0:12.0

Congratulations, World, he said, on his truth social site, it's time for peace.

0:17.5

Our guest, to watch a mystery unfolding is the Iranian-American scholar at Indiana University

0:24.2

in Bloomington, Hussein Banai, known as Huss. You've been my refuge and resource for 20 years

0:31.5

in some huss on not just venomous politics, but high-tech warfare and now tentative sudden peace, it appears, between two

0:40.1

governments. It feels, in fact, like a three-cornered mismatch, and very personal by now,

0:46.4

among Prime Minister Netanyahu of Israel, who has had the Islamic Republic of Iran on his hit list

0:53.1

for 30 years now, and has finally succeeded,

0:56.2

for a moment anyway, in enlisting an American president as his military ally.

1:02.1

You're a young man who knows the long history of this nightmare, Husbandai.

1:06.8

What's your most plausible vision going forward?

1:10.3

My most plausible hope going forward would be for the secession of hostilities immediately,

1:17.9

followed by adorable set of agreements, understandings mutually,

1:23.9

between the United States, Iran, and Israel, that would not threaten to break out

1:31.1

in open war again or to continue simmering in the shadows, as the shadow war between Iran

1:38.9

and Israel has been waging in the last 20 years or so. And obviously, that is a kind of hope that has a lot of

1:46.3

caveats attached to it. It would require fundamental changes and perspective, not to mention

1:52.7

actual individuals who wield power, who strategize, and who have personal stakes in the enmities between these three countries continuing.

2:04.0

Look at the three principles here on this triangle.

2:06.7

Who's ready for that kind of step forward, including and maybe starting with Donald Trump?

2:12.3

If you believe what he says, kind of coming into the second term of his. He wants to be the person that ends all

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