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Ukrainecast

Trump and Zelensky clash in the Oval Office

Ukrainecast

BBC

News Commentary, News

4.71K Ratings

🗓️ 28 February 2025

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

There were unprecedented scenes in the White House this afternoon when President Trump, Vice President JD Vance and President Zelensky clashed in an extraordinary shouting match in front of stunned reporters.

Lyse and Vitaly are joined by former UK national security adviser Lord Ricketts to get immediate reaction, and what this all means for the future of Ukraine. The producers were Clare Williamson, Ryan Johnston and Ben Carter. The technical producer was Mike Regaard. The series producer is Tim Walklate. The assistant editor is Ben Mundy. Email Ukrainecast@bbc.co.uk with your questions and comments. You can also send us a message or voice note via WhatsApp, Signal or Telegram to +44 330 1239480

You can join the Ukrainecast discussion on Newscast’s Discord server here: tinyurl.com/ukrainecastdiscord

Transcript

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0:00.0

BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts.

0:04.9

It's 1,101 days since Russia began its full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

0:10.7

I'm Lee Doucette.

0:11.7

And I'm Vitala Shevchenko.

0:13.3

Vitali, I think I speak for both of us.

0:16.1

I speak for many around the world, most of all,

0:19.5

for Ukrainians who are now saying what has happened.

0:23.9

President Volodymyr Zelensky has just sat down with President Trump at the White House.

0:29.8

It's a setting that is now familiar to everyone around the world.

0:33.2

The place where you have a little fireside chat under President Trump, it's turned into a press conference with journalists shouting questions.

0:41.3

But what we have just seen unfolding in the White House is that it went from questions into such a fire exchange that President Trump even asked the vice president, J.D. V Vance to take over. And this is what happened.

0:57.2

What kind of diplomacy, J.D., you are speaking about? What do you mean? I'm talking about the

1:03.7

kind of diplomacy that's going to end the destruction of your country. Yes, but if you're not

1:07.6

strong, Mr. President, Mr. President, with respect, I think it's disrespectful for you to come

1:10.7

into the Oval Office

1:11.4

to try to litigate this in front of the American media. Right now, you guys are going around

1:15.4

and forcing conscripts to the front lines because you have manpower problems. You should be

1:20.6

thanking the President for trying to bring it into this conflict. Have you ever been to Ukraine

1:24.4

that you say what problems we have? I have been to... There's count one.

1:28.3

I have actually watched and seen the stories, and I know what happens is you bring people,

1:34.3

you bring them on a propaganda tour, Mr. President.

1:37.3

Do you disagree that you've had problems bringing people into your military?

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