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🗓️ 8 December 2025
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| 0:57.0 | Hey there, it's the NPR Politics Podcast. I'm Sarah McCammon. I cover politics. I'm Hima Bustillo, and I cover immigration policy. |
| 1:03.5 | And I'm Odette Yousaf. I cover domestic extremism. And today on the show, the Trump administration has refocused some of its immigration policy on pushing immigrants to, quote, remigrate, to leave the country voluntarily. |
| 1:16.6 | We're going to take a deep dive into the roots of this policy and how it's shaping life in America today. |
| 1:22.4 | Odette, let's just start with the basics. What does remigration mean? |
| 1:27.1 | So remiguration is a concept that, you know, in its |
| 1:30.4 | current iteration is traced back to the white nationalist movement in Europe. And it basically |
| 1:35.1 | means ethnically cleansing traditionally white countries through the organized deportation of non-white |
| 1:43.0 | people. You know, this kind of sounds straightforward on its |
| 1:46.9 | face, Sarah, but I think it masks a lot of questions, you know, questions around, okay, is it referring |
| 1:53.2 | to only immigrants? Is it referring to specifically immigrants who lack legal permanent status? Does it also apply to children of immigrants? So I think it |
| 2:03.9 | really, the definition can actually differ somewhat depending on where the discussion is happening. |
| 2:10.2 | Yeah. And can you tell us more about the history, the backstory of how this term has been used in the |
| 2:14.2 | past? Yeah. So again, this is in the current iteration, it's really traced |
| 2:18.7 | back to France to the same person who is sort of known for coining the term the Great Replacement |
| 2:25.1 | conspiracy theory. So that's a conspiracy theory that claims that people of color are being |
| 2:32.7 | deliberately brought into traditionally white nations, |
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