Podcasts are great like God knows I love them, but like they're not gonna cure all of society's ills and also like we need time to talk about

Buffy

Welcome to your rhyme about the show where we continue to ruin true crime for you. You're welcome

I'm Sarah Marshall and my guest today is Emma Berquist

Thank you for coming on this show Emma. It's good to have you here

Happy to be here big fan

Emma and I are gonna talk about true crime today Emma is an amazing writer and most recently has a piece out in Gokka

called true crime is rotting our brains and I agree and

Over on patreon we have a bonus episode on the Pinkerton detectives with Jamie Loftus

She's back to talk with us about more ghost related shenanigans and that'll be out on Thanksgiving day and time for the

traditional walk around the neighborhood that you will return from in a better mood

I'm such a big fan of your writing and I was so happy to be able to pull you on here

I'm miming that I like lasso do you like a like a calf

Which you I'll let people imagine is how that went as opposed to just a lot of emails

Yeah, you you wrote me and it's I'd say it went you're just a very cool aloof calf and you were like looking up at the moonlight and

And I got my lasso out. Yeah, so in this episode we're gonna talk about

True crime. I feel like this is a very broad title and it could go in a lot of directions

But I mean my summary of it is how a true crime is

aspiring to

prestige status and how that's a

Complicated trend and we're gonna make it more complicated, but how would you summarize things?

I would say that the popularization of true crime and the mainstream appeal now of true crime has

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