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The Reason Interview With Nick Gillespie

Trita Parsi: Is De-escalation Feasible in the Middle East?

The Reason Interview With Nick Gillespie

The Reason Interview With Nick Gillespie

News, Politics

4.6713 Ratings

🗓️ 20 October 2023

⏱️ 80 minutes

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This is the audio version of The Reason Livestream, which takes place every Thursday at 1 p.m. Eastern time. "Despite clear interests…

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Despite clear interests on almost all sides against a regional war in the Middle East,

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all sides are acting in a manner that makes such a war increasingly likely,

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writes Trita Parsi in an October 15th article calling for the Biden administration to push

0:37.4

for de-escalation between Israel and

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Hamas. Parsi is the executive vice president of the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft,

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a DC think tank that promotes a more restrained U.S. foreign policy. He was the former head of

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the National Iranian-American Council and author of several

0:55.8

books, including a treacherous alliance, the secret dealings of Israel, Iran, and the U.S.

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He says that although the Biden administration is well aware of escalation risks, that might

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lead to a broader regional war, talk of de-escalation remains off-limits.

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The Huffington Post reported late last week that it had obtained State Department memos,

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instructing employees to avoid terms like de-escalation, seize fire, end to violence and

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bloodshed, and restoring calm in press materials and statements.

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But is de-escalation even feasible after Hamas slaughtered Israeli civilians and continues to hold close to 200 hostages?

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How should Israel respond to the worst terrorist attack in its history?

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What can U.S. policymakers do to make the

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prospect of a bigger war less likely? Reasons Liz Wolf and I discussed these questions and more with

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Parsi, and Liz and I also revisited the topic of domestic reactions to the Hamas attack, namely

2:00.5

the comments of a Cornell professor who claimed

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