Welcome to the Ringer NBA show. I'm Chris Vernon joining me as he does every Tuesday from the ringer.com is Kevin O'Connor aka Kevin Obama aka Kevin O'Concert. Kevin!

I'll keep this quick. My father ruined Halloween for me at a very young age. And this is not some kind of catastrophic story by any means. But when I was a little kid, we lived in this neighborhood where there were a bunch of teenagers and the teenagers would like vandalize stuff.

I remember being called Devils Night. That's what it was when I was a little kid. They were kicked out mailboxes and all manner of things. And one year, they threw a big glass window in front of our house and a soccer ball flew through it. That's how they got our house.

And so from that point on, I remember on Halloween when I was a little kid, my dad used to literally hide in the bushes throughout Halloween. I was the most stressful night ever. And I'm a little kid is traumatizing. I see my dad hiding in the bushes for waiting for teenagers to come to try to mess up the house so he could run him down.

And so that was my first memory. And then even as I got a little bit older, I don't know if did your parents do this? My parents, I don't know if there was some kind of story about this or something on TV. But they used to check the candy before I ate it. They would check it for needles and stuff. And I'm like, who is sticking needles and snicker?

So that was awful. And then as I got older, I recall like, you know, even when I was like eight or something like that, I don't know. You know, all my friends were going to be going out for Halloween. And my dad was like, Halloween's for kids. And I'm like, I am a kid.

And he would like make even make me stay inside. And then a and I had to hand out candy to the other kids. So it was like all my peers coming to my house. And I would have to and I would have to like, can I'm candy?

With your dad hiding in the bushes, first of all, people throwing stuff through the windows that reminds me of the movie The Purge. And I feel like you lived in a town that just had the purge that actually existed. And that's the part you didn't know.

Have you seen that movie The Purge? I have not seen The Purge.

You get to check that out. I see that.

I'm just so you may it may feel like it's Halloween at the Vernon, Vernon House.

I know. I'm just I'm just so maybe it's maybe you don't watch it.

I'm just so resentful of the entire thing. Honestly, I really, Halloween's Halloween's fine with me. Halloween's cool. I think it's nice that you can dress up and be who they want to be for a night.

Okay, let me say this. You last week, the ringer put out this video stats under the rest where they hooked you up for anybody that has not seen this video.

You it's a must see. I think you could get an award for this. So it's stats under the rest and they take you on a haunted hay ride in Los Angeles where they're going to ask you questions while you are participating in this haunted hay ride.

Okay, I got a couple of things out of this that I've got to ask you about. Okay.

Okay. Number one, will this be an ongoing series? Like are they going to like, you know, like throw you in the middle of the ocean and ask you questions? Are they going to like put you like on a paintball range and you've got to like dodge paintballs or something.

I think this should be a series of you doing stats under duress in different kinds of perilous situations.

Trust me. I agree. I mean, I hope it becomes a series. I really do. It was a lot. It was a really fun time and there's a lot we could do. You do skydiving.

Okay, no, I'm just saying a lot of options. Skydiving. I don't even know if you could talk while you're skydiving, but just something that came to mind.

Okay. And number two, we'll get to this quickly. How are you not scared of any you like laugh that all of the ghouls and goblins and all manner to like are you, are you not one that gets scared by stuff because you were virtually

I don't know. I'm afraid of even like the shocking moment. There were sometimes where you were scared to like turn a corner or something, but generally when somebody would jump out at you, you would laugh.

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