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Trickle Down Episode 2: Bad Seed (Part 2) Sample

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Julian Feeld, Travis View & Jake Rockatansky

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4.54.4K Ratings

🗓️ 23 April 2022

⏱️ 8 minutes

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Summary

Henry Herbert Goddard’s work studying the supposedly degenerate “Kallikak” family made him world famous. In the words of a teacher at the Vineland Training Center, it also made Emma Wolverton, aka Deborah Kallikak, the “World’s Best Known Moron.” But the acclaim Goddard achieved for his work faded as psychologists discovered fatal flaws with his research. However, before Goddard’s work was dismissed as worthless by the scientific community is was cited as justification for eugenic programs both at home and in Nazi Germany. This is a 10-part series brought to you by the QAA podcast. To get access to all upcoming episodes of Trickle Down as well as a new premium QAA episode every week, go sign up for $5 a month at patreon.com/qanonanonymous Written by Travis View. Theme by Nick Sena (https://nicksenamusic.com). Additional music by Pontus Berghe and Nick Sena. Editing by Corey Klotz. REFERENCES: Carlson, Axel Elof ( 2001) The Unfit: A History of a Bad Idea Cohen, Adam (2016) Imbeciles: The Supreme Court, American Eugenics, and the Sterilization of Carrie Buck Smith, David J. and Wehmeyer, Michael L. (2012) Good Blood, Bad Blood. Science, Nature, and the Myth of the Kallikaks. Smith, David J. and Wehmeyer, Michael L. (2012) Who Was Deborah Kallikak? https://meridian.allenpress.com/idd/article/50/2/169/14846/Who-Was-Deborah-Kallikak Smith, David J. (1985) Minds Made Feeble: The Myth and the Legacy of the Kallikaks Zenderland, L. (1998). Measuring minds: Henry Herbert Goddard and the origins of American intelligence testing. Zimmer, Carl (2018) She Has Her Mother's Laugh: The Powers, Perversions, and Potential of Heredity

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Sometimes one of the challenges involved with defining disability is defining normality.

0:15.0

Research psychologists Henry Herbert Goddard believe that intellectual disability involves

0:35.0

a weak understanding of facts about the world and societal harm.

0:39.7

With problems with defining disability this way are obvious. Supposedly normal people

0:44.5

can have a confused understanding of the world. Goddard certainly has a share of misunderstandings.

0:49.7

Normal people can also massively harm society, especially when they wield a lot of influence

0:53.8

and power. The fact that normal people can also be prone to confusion was noticed by Emma

0:58.5

Wolverton, aka Deborah Callacac, whose family line was made famous in Goddard's study

1:03.5

that supposedly proved that inherited people' madness was the cause of all of society's

1:08.2

ideals. One day Emma Wolverton told the Vineland

1:11.0

Training Center teacher Helen Reeves this,

1:13.5

Did you know it's normal people who are the real problems? They think us people-minded

1:18.0

people are problems, but they're the real ones. They got so much to think about half

1:22.1

the time they don't know what to think. Yes, sir, normal people are the real problems.

1:27.0

I've been watching them a long time now. Helen Reeves responded, but Deborah, as you

1:32.0

know, the people-minded problem is considered very depressing by a lot of folks. Of course,

1:38.2

it isn't, but what about the problem of normal people? Is that depressing? Emma replied

1:43.3

rarely. Sometimes yes, and sometimes no. I'd say most generally always yes.

1:49.8

I'm Travis Vue, and this is Trickle Down, a podcast about what happens when bad ideas

1:54.0

flow from the top, with B.R. Julian Field and Jake Rakotansky.

1:58.8

Episode 2. Bad Seed. Part 2.

2:08.0

The last episode I talked about Henry Herbert Goddard's study of a Calacac family. The

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