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TreVeyon Henderson Is Jahmyr Gibbs and Why You've Got the Wrong MVP - Stealing Bananas

Rotoviz Radio

Blue Wire

Sports, Fantasy Sports

4.8767 Ratings

🗓️ 10 November 2025

⏱️ 108 minutes

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Summary

Ben Gretch and Shawn Siegele break down the Henderson coming-out party and debate the MVP name to dethrone Drake Maye, as the guys discuss the fantasy football implications of NFL Week 10.

Transcript

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0:00.0

45 minutes on Travion Henderson as the greatest player in NFL history and some other things that we saw in week 10 if there's time. That's what we're talking about

0:23.3

today on stealing bananas. I'm Ben Gretz. You can find the stealing signals newsletter at bengershotsubstack.com

0:27.2

with me as always is Sean Siegel. You can find all of his great work over at RotoViz. Travion

0:34.0

Henderson. Maybe not quite the greatest running back of all time, but had been getting hammered, basically everywhere around the fantasy industry.

0:46.5

And then I think even more so by like fantasy consumers, people I see on social and stuff oh all you fancy analysts

0:55.4

were on this guy you're all idiots you guys don't know anything that's what we i mean it's

1:01.6

every time when a rookie isn't doing well it's the it's you're so stupid like if it's if it's a

1:09.2

veteran who we've already seen score but he's just like hit an age cliff, you don't get it as bad. But with the rookies, it's like, oh my God, what were you thinking that you could have possibly thought? And yet like NFL teams can't even get the rookie picks correct. So it's not, there's no logic to it. We're all way too emotional about fantasy sports in general but

1:30.3

with travion i mean it did that there's concern it did seem like it may not ever really come around

1:36.9

or when it was going to come around or whatever i've been writing about it a lot in stealing signals

1:42.1

i've been almost weekly like i don't think the way that he's being discussed is fair.

1:49.5

So I feel a little vindicated.

1:51.3

Sean, your vindication goes back even further because you're the one who, you know,

1:54.0

more or less originally got me on him.

1:55.9

This is a guy you really liked to the draft season.

1:58.5

So you've been very on to Trayvion. I got to give you. It's like we can, now that we've kind of built Henderson up and, and criticize people who are criticizing, we can go ahead and throw Sean under the bus for liking it more than everybody else. I wasn't trying to throw you out of the bus. This is a victory lap. I was trying to, I was trying to give you the floor to victory lap more than uh than me i

2:20.6

guess but uh i uh the in season stuff with signals i've been very uh adamant that this the shoe was

2:28.8

going to drop at some point but no i mean it was a storyline of the week right the the long t d runs

2:33.1

we were talking about it just briefly before not just just for Trayvion. We got a, we got the long one from Jonathan Taylor. We got two long ones from Devon A-chan, which was super fun. He's been running effectively all year, but has not quite found that space felt like it. I think he said one or two other ones, but it felt like a game like this was coming for him.

2:53.7

Jemir Gibbs has a down game last week and then comes back this week.

2:57.3

He has the early receiving touchdown.

2:59.6

They obviously try to activate him as a receiver right away because he was held in to pass block off last game.

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