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The Business of Fashion Podcast

Tremaine Emory on Mixing Politics and Fashion

The Business of Fashion Podcast

The Business of Fashion

Fashion & Beauty, Business, Arts

4.6770 Ratings

🗓️ 12 November 2020

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Imran Amed talks to the designer, also known as Denim Tears, about the US election and putting conditions on his collaboration with Converse.   This is just the beginning for designer Tremaine Emory. Following the US election, the designer, who is also known as Denim Tears, spoke to BoF’s Imran Amed about negotiating with big brands, leading with purpose and the work still ahead. “It’s been an incredible week and there’s a lot more work to do,” said Emory. “I hope this is the start.”  
  • For Emory, principles come first when it comes to working with big brands, especially if they are using corporate activism in their marketing. The designer notably withheld the release of a collaboration with Converse earlier this year, posting a set of conditions for parent company Nike on Instagram that ranged from disclosing the number of Black employees in leadership roles to stopping all support for the Republican party. “I can’t put these sneakers out if all the company is doing is donating money,” said Emory. “I need to know specifically what they’re doing to combat police brutality in Black neighbourhoods… Who are we protecting with this money?” In negotiations with brands, Emory delineated the tango that comes with corporate partnerships: “Their number one thing is making money... how can I dance their bottom line with my bottom line?”
  • Reflecting on the results of the election, Emory emphasised the importance of registering young voters and getting them excited about the upcoming senate elections, particularly in his home state of Georgia. “We’re going to work to get people to vote and get Democrats in those seats,” he said.
  • Emory also hopes to introduce young consumers to new ideas and ways of thinking about American history and civil rights. “That’s probably my favourite part of my practice is being a bridge of knowledge between generations,” he said. “How can I condense... a James Baldwin book [or] a Black Panther book into a T-shirt?”
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0:00.0

You have people in your family with like the generation of poverty.

0:06.0

Giving them $20,000 isn't going to help them.

0:08.0

What's going to help them is figure out why does this cycle keep happening.

0:12.0

It's been such an incredible week of drama, political intrigue, and, you know, success for Biden and Harris in their run for president and vice president.

0:22.6

I mean, what's your overall take on what's happened

0:25.6

with the election results?

0:27.6

My main hope with this week is, aside from the celebrations,

0:30.6

we can keep up the fever and the energy and not get tired

0:33.6

and live this way for the rest of our lives,

0:36.6

being involved in the political process.

0:43.1

Hi, this is Imran Ahmed, founder and CEO of the Business of Fashion, and welcome to the BEOF podcast.

0:48.9

This week, I sit down with the multi-hyphenate creative consultant Tremaine Emery, also known as denim tiers.

0:55.3

We talk about his recent collaborations with Levi's and Converse in light of the wider

1:00.5

conversations around dismantling systemic racism in America.

1:05.0

Tremaine has a unique perspective on these topics and talks about it in the context of the

1:09.8

U.S. election results, which are still being contested

1:13.3

by President Donald Trump.

1:14.8

Here's Tremaine Emery, Inside Fashion.

1:24.0

We have been doing these conversations now

1:26.1

since way back at the beginning of the lockdowns and the pandemic.

1:33.0

And each week we've been chatting with people in our community who have important messages, ideas, and insights to share.

1:41.3

And this week, I am really pleased to welcome my old friend, Tramaine Emery,

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