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Afford Anything

Treasury Tantrums, Arctic Routes, and McKinley's Ghost

Afford Anything

Paula Pant | Cumulus Podcast Network

Entrepreneurship, Business, Investing

4.63.4K Ratings

🗓️ 8 February 2025

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

#580: "If you want to understand what's happening in the economy, look at bonds," begins today's episode, where we explore how the bond market acts as a crystal ball for economic trends. The bond market has been sending some clear signals lately. Interest rates remain elevated, with 10-year Treasury yields about 1 percent higher than their September 2024 low. After a challenging 2024 where bond returns flattened to just 1.18 percent, both the U.S. and U.K. are seeing historically high yields. We break down what's driving these changes and explain key concepts like term premium — the extra return investors demand for holding longer-term bonds. The Federal Reserve's recent moves are shaping this landscape. After cutting rates by 1 percentage point between September and December 2024, Fed officials are now signaling a more cautious approach, wanting to see further inflation decline before considering additional cuts. Then we explore why President William McKinley is suddenly relevant again. McKinley, whose term began in 1897, was known for his imperialist expansion and love of tariffs. His presidency came towards the end of what historians call "the long 19th century" — a period from the French Revolution in 1789 to the start of World War I in 1914. This era was marked by massive social upheaval, major technological advancement, the First Industrial Revolution, and huge migration into cities. It also included the California and Klondike Gold Rushes. The episode then turns to what some are calling the "Cold Rush" — the race to claim influence in the rapidly changing Arctic. With ice melting four times faster than global averages and the potential for ice-free Arctic days by 2030, nations are competing for new shipping routes and access to resources. We examine three emerging paths: the Northern Sea Route along Russia's coast, the North-West Passage along North America, and the Transpolar Sea Route across the North Pole. Finally, we dive into an overlooked story: the global tax war. In 2021, 136 countries agreed to establish a 15 percent minimum corporate tax rate to prevent profit-shifting to tax havens. While the U.S. already exceeds this minimum with its 21 percent domestic rate, implementation faces challenges due to different methodologies for calculating tax bases and recent political developments that could affect its future. Resources mentioned: https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/notes/feds-notes/the-treasury-tantrum-of-2023-20240903.html https://www.pimco.com/us/en/insights/will-the-true-treasury-term-premium-please-stand-up https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf https://youtu.be/gQqcKepuQdA?feature=shared https://www.morningstar.com/bonds/how-largest-bond-funds-did-2024 https://www.npr.org/2025/02/05/1229167003/mckinley-trump-tin-tariffs https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2025/01/23/the-arctic-climate-changes-great-economic-opportunity https://www.clingendael.org/pub/2020/presence-before-power/4-greenland-what-is-china-doing-there-and-why/ https://www.clingendael.org/pub/2020/presence-before-power/ For more information, visit the show notes at https://affordanything.com/episode580 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

If you want to understand what's happening in the economy, look at bonds.

0:07.2

In today's episode, we're going to talk about what the bond market can tell us about where the economy is headed.

0:13.1

We're also going to take a look at the new jobs data, which dropped this morning.

0:17.9

The numbers were not as high as expected. We're going to add some context to that story.

0:22.1

Meanwhile, what's the deal with President McKinley?

0:25.1

Why is he back in the zeitgeist?

0:27.0

We're going to discuss this in today's special History Corner segment,

0:30.6

which leads us into a look at today's modern gold rush,

0:34.2

which some historians are calling the Cold Rush.

0:37.7

And we'll end with a look at a story that has really gotten overshadowed, and that's the global tax war.

0:44.5

Not the trade war, but the tax war.

0:48.3

Welcome to the Afford Anything podcast, the show that understands you can afford anything but not everything.

0:53.0

Every choice carries a tradeoff. And that applies not just to your money, but to your time, focus, energy, attention,

0:58.0

to everything that's both scarce and valuable. This show covers five pillars, financial psychology,

1:03.6

increasing your income, investing, real estate, and entrepreneurship. It's double-eye fire.

1:07.8

I'm your host, Paula Pant. I trained in economic reporting at Columbia, and once a month,

1:12.2

on the first Friday of the month, we host our monthly economic update. So welcome to the

1:18.7

February 2025, first Friday monthly economic update. Interest rates remain high as anyone

1:26.3

who has applied for a mortgage or a car loan knows. This is

1:29.7

largely because of the benchmark 10-year treasury yield, which is currently hovering around 4.4 to 4.5%.

1:37.6

This is actually down slightly from its peak in mid-January, which is at 4.79%, just shy 4.8. But by recent standards,

1:47.6

it's still considered quite high. In fact, it's one percentage point higher than it was in September

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