The following podcast contains explicit language. I'm Stephen Metcalf and this is the Slate Culture Gapfest Box of Treacle Edition.

It's Wednesday, December 19th, 2018.

On today's show, Spider-Man Into the Spider-verse, what seems like a bit of cynical

IP stretching turns out to be a masterful genre picture we discussed with Slate's own

Spideologist Jamel Bowie and then Love actually haunts the dreams of the Western

imagination. We discuss why with Slate's other Ex editor- and chief, David Platz.

And finally, if TV is so peak, is so great,

so bucking awesome these days, why is it so blah?

Joining me today is Slate's ex-editor and chief now managing co-managing

editor at the LA Times Julia Turner. Hello Julia. Hello that's also not my

title. I think you should just cycle through every job until he hits on your job like at some point he'll call you you know he'll call you a

Construction specialist and a sanitation engineer and eventually he'll actually hit on your job title.

Just never call me entrepreneur in residence which is the worst title that anyone could have in

2018.

That is so awesome but listen we're both hiding truth, which is that like the old British 60s TV spy show,

The Prisoner, all ex-editors and chief of Slate are renditioned off to a secret island somewhere where their secrets die with them.

Who can say?

Who can say?

Say hi to Plattu's sitting right next to you on the literal.

The Pinakeladus here are delicious. sitting right next to you on the literal.

The Pienic a lot of Sierra delicious.

And of course we're joined by Slates film critic Dana.

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