This is the John Fugel-Sang Podcast.

The authoritarian impulse now playing the authoritarian impulse now plaguing American society is not a cause but rather a symptom of an underlying problem

Corporate money dominates our government to such an extent that for all intents and purposes it drowns out the will of the people

We function now not as a thriving democracy, but as an oligarchy. A government of the people by the people and for the people is indeed perishing from the earth and on our watch it has been replaced by a government of the corporations by the

corporations and for the corporations and the people are starting to figure this out

the worst enemy of democracy is not Donald Trump the worst enemy of

democracy is corporate greed.

So says our next guest in an editorial in the New Hampshire Union leader.

I am very pleased to welcome back to our show Democratic presidential candidate

best-selling author and heroic activist Marianne Williamson.

Hey John, thank you so much for having me.

Thank you so much for being back.

It's so good to see you. It's so good to see you.

Oh, it's good to see you.

I'm curious, was there a moment when you decided you wanted to do this to your nervous

system again, that you wanted to jump back into a presidential race?

The first time I ran, there was a moment, actually.

The second time, absolutely not.

It was a months-long process, no longer naive,

very aware of what I was getting myself into, although that doesn't make

it feel any better when you're going through it, aware that it was like running into

a burning house.

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