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Hello and welcome to the History Extra podcast from BBC History Magazine and BBC History Revealed. I'm Ellie Cawthorne.

The rise of Black British theatre over the past two centuries

is a story of innovation, creativity and triumph against the odds.

It's also a story that's been largely ignored by mainstream histories.

In his new book, Deep Are the Roots,

Trailblazers who changed Black British Theatre. Stephen Bourne attempts to set the record straight.

He chronicles trailblazing black actors, playwrights and dramatists, from Ira Aldridge to Alfred Fagan.

On today's podcast, he introduced Spencer Mizzin to some of these theatrical pioneers.

Stephen, your new book is called Beeper the Roots, Trailblazers who change Black British Theatre.

Now, the book was out at the end of last year, but this is a topic you've been interested in for decades, isn't it?

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