All right, time to get to what is going to become an annual tradition for us here on Hollinger

and Duncan.

And that is to go back a little more than a year later once there's been another trade

deadline in the books and look at the previous year's trade deadline and evaluate what

we thought at the time, what the teams thought at the time, how that ended up changing,

whether teams made the right move to trade guys, how that ended up changing, whether teams made the right move

to trade guys, how that worked out, whether teams made the right move to acquire guys,

whether teams made the right move to not trade guys as well. So it's all going to be really

fascinating here. As we look back on this, John, and what stands out to you as the biggest move from last year's

deadline? I think the most significant move is the Vouch trade because that started Chicago on a

completely different trajectory and it started Orlando on a completely different trajectory.

You know, that was Orlando waving the white flag on,

I mean, Vooch, Fornier and Gordon all played in that last game before the trade deadline and they

won and they like knew they were getting traded and like wave to the crowd and everything. It was like,

it was over, right? So. And then at the same time, Chicago was, went from going nowhere to,

okay, now we've traded two first for Vooch and still went nowhere last year.

But now this kind of rebuilt Bulls team, that was like the first step in, you know, the Carnitius administration's plan to get, get, make this team relevant again.

What did you make of that deal at the time? Just so we have it

here, let me say what it was first. This was the Magic traded Nicola Vujovitchvich and Al-Farukamino,

who had money actually left for this year, which would become important. For Wendell Carter,

who's the number seven overall pick in 2018, Otto Porter Jr. and two first round picks, the

2021 Chicago first, which was top four protected. That later became the eighth overall pick and

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