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TILT Parenting: Strategies, Insights, and Connection for Parents Raising Neurodivergent Children

TPP 433: Educator Rob Barnett on What it Takes to Meet Every Learner's Needs

TILT Parenting: Strategies, Insights, and Connection for Parents Raising Neurodivergent Children

Debbie Reber

Education, Parenting, Kids & Family

4.8 • 983 Ratings

🗓️ 11 March 2025

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

​Today I’ve got a really interesting conversation for you about a relatively new instruction model that is designed to create learning environments that truly meet the needs of every student. It’s called the Modern Classroom Project, and my guest is Robert Barnett, is the co-founder of the model as well as the author of the new book that describes this approach called Meet Every Learner’s Needs: Redesigning Instruction So All Learners Can Succeed. Rob has spent years teaching across different subjects and age groups, and he’s passionate about transforming education to be more flexible, engaging, and student-centered. In this episode, you’ll hear Rob broke down the Modern Classroom instructional model, which gives students more agency over their learning by allowing them to move at their own pace and collaborate with each other to achieve mastery. He also explained why instructional videos can enhance accessibility, how mastery checks help confirm readiness before advancing to the next lesson, and how, ultimately, this model prioritizes the critical role of teacher-student relationships in fostering engagement and trust. Rob also shared insights into why traditional education systems often struggle to meet the needs of all the learners, as well as how parents can share the Modern classroom resources with their kids’ teachers or school administration. I love talking with people who are on a mission to shake up big systems, and this is definitely one of those inspirational conversations. I hope you enjoy this conversation with Rob Barnett.   About Robert Barnett Robert Barnett co-founded the Modern Classrooms Project, which has empowered 80,000+ educators in 180+ countries to meet every learner’s needs. Before that he taught math, computer science, English, social studies, and law, from the middle-school to university levels, at public and private schools in the U.S. and abroad. He is the author of Meet Every Learner’s Needs: Redesigning Instruction So All Learners Can Succeed and he hopes his children will learn in Modern Classrooms someday!   Things you'll learn from this episode How the Modern Classroom model supports flexibility, student agency, and individualized pacing for deeper learning Why instructional videos enhance engagement, comprehension, and accessibility, allowing students to learn at their own pace How mastery checks help confirm readiness before advancing, ensuring a strong foundation for continued learning Why building relationships with students fosters trust, engagement, and better behavior management in the classroom Why equity in education means adapting teaching methods to support all learners, and parents can advocate for modern approaches that benefit their children   Resources mentioned Meet Every Learner's Needs: Redesigning Instruction So All Students Can Succeed by Robert Barnett Meet Every Learner’s Needs book website Meet Every Learner’s Needs Substack Modern Classroom Project Book giveaway for listeners Khan Academy Universal Design for Learning (UDL) The Disengaged Teen: Helping Kids Learn Better, Feel Better, and Live Better by Rebecca Winthrop & Jenny Anderson The End of Average: Unlocking Our Potential By Embracing What Makes Us Different by Todd Rose   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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When we teach to the middle or assume that every kid who's 13

0:57.4

years old is going to learn the exact same content in the exact same amount of time, like,

1:02.5

that's not how learning works. That's miserable for teachers. And so we need to say, if you actually

1:07.9

want the student at Eastern High School in Washington, D.C. to master

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something like pre-calculus, and they come in without those skills, you've got to give them time.

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You've got to give them extra support. And you've also got to let those advanced students

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zoom ahead. So I think sometimes people think equity equals standardization. I don't think that's the case.

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I think equity means that we need to take every learner as they come to us,

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regardless of their needs, and figure out a way to meet them.

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I'm Debbie Reber and welcome to Tilt Parenting,

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a podcast featuring interviews and conversations aimed at inspiring,

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