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I'm Gail Straub and you're listening to She Explores, a show for and about

inquisitive women in the outdoors on the road and besides. If you haven't

checked out our website, you'll find two years worth of interviews, artwork, photographs, and stories that have been submitted by women who are inspired by time spent outside.

This is part two of the two-part series on diversity, equity, and inclusion in the outdoors and the outdoor

industry.

Liz Song, my friend from Stocqueated Scout, a resource site about beginner backpacking

for women is back to help me guide this

conversation. If you haven't yet I definitely encourage you to listen to part one

diversity beyond the buzzword to get a sense of the context we frame this two-part series around.

We talked about all the barriers that can keep a diverse range of people from enjoying the

outdoors. And since we launched it about a month ago,

I've got a lot of feedback,

both positive and some less positive.

To sum up the positives, they sound like, great, keep doing this, keep talking about this.

Feature more diverse women on your podcast and website and social media.

Thank you. The less positive sound like, why are you talking

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