Lee Anderson, the former Conservative MP, who even the Tories blated he had to take actually the gates because he made, well, just gratuitously his amophobic comments, has now joined the Hardwright Reform Party. That's the artist, formerly known as the Brexit Party in UKIP.

Now he did so, he says, after a lot of soul searching, a full-un task.

Over the last year or so, I've had to do a lot of soul searching on my political journey and he was laughing.

Here he is with the leader of the Reform Party, Richard Tice.

I hope that helps. Beth, you next. of the Reform Party, Richard Tice.

I hope that helps.

Beth, you next.

Thank you, Ms. Transson.

You talk there about a lot of soul search,

and you are a labor, Bakker, then you're a Conservative MP.

Now you're defecting to reform.

What do you say to people that say the problem isn't all these parties?

The problem is you and this is all about attention seeking and this has been very disloyal to Rishi Sunak who made you deputy party chair and also to other colleagues that have backed you very verbally in recent weeks and are probably very upset and angry with you that you're

going to only hurt their chances in a general election what's your answer to

them? Thank you. Country constituency and then party next question please Richard

sorry no next question

no no no no no but that is the but that is the point

next question please that's it I've given to your colleagues who feel really let down this morning?

I've given my answer.

Next question, please.

Right Lee, bit thin skin, if we're going to be honest, more of that shortly.

Anyway, here's what he said about that say Richard Tice earlier this year.

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