Our top 25 countdown continues.

Coming in at number 20, our first conversation with New York Times best-selling author, Sochill Gonzalez.

This conversation we had at post-oldo-di's streaming and pre-publication of Anita de Monte Laf's last.

And the thing I remember being most struck by was how Sochill saw being childless and unmarried as an opportunity to take a big risk.

Enjoy.

Sochiel, thank you for doing this.

Thank you for having me.

I'm so delighted.

And I'm a big fan of yours.

So I'm very delighted.

Stop.

I'm a big fan of yours.

And I'm freaking out because it is all happening for you. Oh, my God. It's so weird. Like, it's so weird. It's like you hope it's going to happen. And then you're also secretly terrified. You know, you put anything out in the public. And then it's like, oh, no, like, people are meeting them and loving them. And this is

like beautiful and crazy. And so, yeah, it's just wild. It's been a wild few weeks.

It strikes me that in your personal bio, you have two very simple sentences next to each other.

I went to public school. I went to Brown. And those two sentences and two life experiences next to each other say so much.

It's so weird. Now I'm going to get like weirdly emotional. You know, I wrote that because

when I was trying to decide if I had the guts to write, just period, I re-bought loose women.

And in her bio at that time, Sandra Sysniznizniz was say, Sandra Sysnizniz is nobody's wife and nobody's mother. And I knew why she said that. I understood why. And then I was like, I need to put this because I think so often, you see one thing and you assume one story and you see another thing and you assume another story. And I needed people to see that that's that. And part of why I wanted to do the TV

adaptation was because I want people to understand the tiny pains of needing to move in between worlds.

And it's almost like in sci-fi, like if you were going through a membrane and every time you

inflict a little tiny wound on yourself, like a little rip or something. And a friend of

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