Too Many People

Broken Record with Rick Rubin, Malcolm Gladwell, Bruce Headlam and Justin Richmond

Pushkin Industries

Society & Culture, Music

4.5 • 4.2K Ratings

🗓️ 6 December 2023

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

Many observers have tried to pinpoint the specific events that lead to Lennon-McCartney, the formidable songwriting partnership, transitioning to Lennon v. McCartney. But the fact is there is no single truth regarding why the beloved duo split. So instead of investigating the why, we look at the aftermath: legal battles, hurtful accusations in song and, ultimately, a sense of resolution. “Too Many People” opens Paul and Linda McCartney’s 1971 album, “RAM” and serves as an opening to explore Lennon-McCartney’s dissolution ahead of ultimately resolving their differences and rekindling a friendship.

“McCartney: A Life in Lyrics” is a co-production between iHeart Media, MPL and Pushkin Industries.

The series was produced by Pejk Malinovski and Sara McCrea; written by Sara McCrea; edited by Dan O’Donnell and Sophie Crane; mastered by Jason Gambrell with sound design by Pejk Malinovski. The series is executive produced by Leital Molad, Justin Richmond, Lee Eastman and Scott Rodger.

Thanks to Lee Eastman, Richard Ewbank, Scott Rodger, Aoife Corbett and Steve Ithell.

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0:00.0	Pushkin.
0:07.0	What about too many people?
0:15.0	Two and eight people is on an album called Ram.
0:19.0	There was at a time when John was firing missiles at me.
0:25.0	I don't know what he hoped to gain other than punching me in the face.
0:30.0	And this kind of annoyed me, obviously.
0:35.0	I suddenly decided to turn my missiles on him.
0:40.0	I'm Paul Muldoon and I've been fortunate to spend time with one of the greatest songwriters of the era.
0:50.0	And will you look at me? I'm going on to her. I'm actually a performer. That is Sir Paul McCartney.
0:57.2	We worked together on a book looking at the lyrics of more than 150 of his songs and we recorded many hours of our conversations.
1:08.0	Am I actually am a songwriter? My God, well that that crept up on me.
1:12.8	This is McCartney, a life in lyrics, a master class, a memoir,
1:19.3	and an improvised journey with one of the most iconic figures in popular music. In this episode, too many people. What's your first mistake?
1:40.0	You took your looking break and broken into. Now what can we can be done for you you look it into
1:49.6	who broke up the Beatles? Was it Paul McCartney? Or was it John Lennon? Was it the death of manager
1:59.0	Brian Epstein, the interference of businessman Alan Klein or somehow the mere presence of Yoko Ono.
2:07.0	No matter how many times this question has been asked.
2:12.0	Trying to answer it seems futile.
2:15.0	There are many reasons why the Beatles broke up.
2:18.0	So in this episode, we won't be trying to find a definitive cause for the Beatles breakup.
2:26.0	Instead we will be telling the story of its aftermath.
2:31.0	I was keeping largely quiet about John and our and the Beatles sort of split up.
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