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Talking Real Money - Investing Talk

Too Many ETFs?

Talking Real Money - Investing Talk

Don McDonald

Business, Education, Investing, How To

4.2 • 680 Ratings

🗓️ 9 June 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Don and Tom explore the evolution, promise, and pitfalls of Exchange-Traded Funds (ETFs). While ETFs have become the dominant investment vehicle, boasting $8 trillion in assets and more than 4,000 choices, the duo cautions against the “novelty trap” that lures investors into trendy, high-cost, low-diversification funds. They advocate sticking with time-tested providers like Vanguard, Schwab, and Avantis, and urge listeners to focus on strategy over hype. The episode also covers listener questions on Facet Wealth’s alternative investments and Roth IRA income limits, ending with a light jab at Portland’s real estate collapse and Don’s growing jet lag. 0:04 Opening banter and the rise of ETFs as mutual fund successors 1:28 ETF history from SPY to the $8 trillion juggernaut 2:21 Why ETFs caught on: low cost, tax efficiency, index focus 3:45 When Wall Street noticed: strategic beta and rule-based funds emerge 4:59 The novelty problem: gimmicky single-stock and crypto ETFs 6:57 How to filter the 4,000 ETFs to a trustworthy handful 7:34 Which fund families to consider—and which to avoid 8:58 Active vs. passive: the murky middle and the “passively active” dilemma 10:01 Conflicts of interest in ETF endorsements and advertising bias 11:19 ETF investing principles: keep it simple, diversified, and strategic 12:09 Why the industry lumps Dimensional and Avantis with active managers 14:09 Brief detour into Austin, Silicon Valley, and Portland real estate 15:22 Final ETF takeaway: old, boring, and proven beats shiny and new 17:01 Listener Q1: Is Facet Wealth’s alternative income strategy a red flag? 22:01 Listener Q2: Roth IRA income limits, backdoor Roths, and best next moves Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:37.9

We're talking real money.

0:40.7

Welcome to talking real money.

0:42.8

Yes, it's podcast time again.

0:45.1

Well, okay, it's always podcast time.

0:47.1

It's always talking real money time almost every single day except for some holidays

0:51.7

and some weekends where we don't do podcast.

0:55.4

But we're doing one right now, and we're glad you're a part of it.

0:58.0

Today we want to talk a little bit about the latest, literally latest and greatest investment vehicle to come from Wall Street.

1:08.2

Now, they invent a lot of things, but every once in a while,

1:12.2

they actually get it right. This one is, by the way, the investment du jour. You got to say it is,

1:17.8

right? I mean, it totally is. I mean, for us, for us to have totally changed our tune. Yeah.

1:25.4

And frankly, our tune wasn't that harmonious anyway. So, well, I speak for yourself. Yeah. And frankly, our tune wasn't that harmonious anyway.

1:29.1

So, well, speak for yourself.

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