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Real Vision: Finance & Investing

Too Early To Signal a Pivot?

Real Vision: Finance & Investing

Real Vision

Investing, Business News, News, Business

4.11.1K Ratings

🗓️ 2 December 2022

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Equity futures sagged this morning with the release of a stronger-than-expected nonfarm payrolls report for November, as both the pace of new hiring and wage growth suggested inflation is more than a matter of snarled supply chains and a European war. Cem Karsan, the founder of Kai Volatility Advisors, joins Andreas Steno Larsen for today’s Daily Briefing to assess the implications of persistent U.S. labor market strength. We also hear from Whitney Baker on why a recession is the only thing that will stunt consumption and thus slow inflation. Watch the full conversation between Andreas Steno Larsen and Whitney Baker here: rvtv.io/3VIFnbU. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Good afternoon everyone and a happy Friday. My name is Andreas Dean from Real Vision and I want to

0:42.4

be welcome to the Real Vision daily briefing. Today we are going to ask the question whether it

0:48.4

is too early to signal a pivot, especially in light of the non-farm payroll report we received

0:56.4

earlier today. But before we get to the show, I just have a quick word from our CEO Rowell.

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But I want to welcome my guest for the next 30 minutes, a great guy, which I've known for a while.

1:27.4

So welcome to the show, Jim Carson, the managing partner and CIO of cable activity advisors.

1:33.4

Thanks for having me, Andreas. Wonderful to be here.

1:36.4

Is it too early to signal a pivot? I obviously refer to Jay Powell's speech earlier this week.

1:43.4

So let's take that question first. Is it too early to pivot, Jim?

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That's a more complicated question than is it earlier late?

1:55.4

The reality is, in my view, the Fed can only control cyclical inflation, right?

2:03.4

So they're actually by lowering, you know, by increasing interest rates.

2:09.4

They're actually in many ways exacerbating structural long-term inflation.

2:14.4

We've talked about this before, but, you know, low interest rates drove the disinflation we've seen for the last 40 years.

2:23.4

And increasing interest rates structurally will do the opposite. It will actually exacerbate inflation.

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