I knew this is where comedy was.

Goney Carson changed my life twice.

It was just like a dream. It was just like everything I had worked for and dreamed about has come to fruition.

They said Johnny fell overlapping.

It makes me so happy.

I made him laugh.

But with Johnny, you know you knew you had a kid audience and you didn't really go great.

My wife at the Kirkwood, all hell broke loose backstage.

People were running up and she said, go back out, go back out.

Johnny wants you back.

I walked back through the curtain very calm and Johnny, I took about, and Johnny put that little circle up at the finger, and I knew I am Mark Malkop. This is the podcast where I talk to people whose lives were changed by going on the tonight show

starring Johnny Carson. Individuals that worked on Carson, guests who regularly

appeared on the show and the top people in entertainment that were influenced by Carson.

My guest this week is former Johnny Carson writer Tony DeSena.

Tony and I got together at his home in Los Angeles, California.

Enjoy.

Tony to Santa, thanks for talking to us. A pleasure to be here since it's my house and I'm already here.

Yeah, this is really nice.

You have a bunch of Carson memorabilia

up which I like.

I would put this up for you.

Yeah, what are you?

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