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TONIGHT. The show starts in Hiroshima and Nagasaki and ranges to Bali, Indonesia, Dahomey, Niger, Second Thomas Shoal, Philippines and Kyiv, Ukraine. Attention to the facts of radiation poisoning at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Also focus on the ransacked Ama

The John Batchelor Show

John Batchelor

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4.52.8K Ratings

🗓️ 8 August 2023

⏱️ 8 minutes

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TONIGHT. The show starts in Hiroshima and Nagasaki and ranges to Bali, Indonesia, Dahomey, Niger, Second Thomas Shoal, Philippines and Kyiv, Ukraine. Attention to the facts of radiation poisoning at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Also focus on the ransacked Amazon.

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0:00.0

At TFL, we're making journeys safer for everyone, and that includes improving safety on London's roads.

0:07.4

That's why we and London boroughs are lowering more speed limits to 20 miles per hour,

0:12.3

because 20 miles per hour roads have already reduced collisions resulting in deaths or

0:16.8

serious injuries by 24%. That is how we're making journeys in London safer and brighter for everyone.

0:24.8

Such TFL improvement plan to the Mayor of London and TFL every journey matters.

0:30.1

This is John Bachelor. Good evening. The conversation with Charles Pellegrino is especially

0:36.1

helpful to understand the controversy over the dropping of the two atomic bombs

0:42.2

in 1945 in anger. The decision to drop the bombs I learned from Charlie and from Evan Thomas,

0:50.3

the Roger Surrender, a new book, and also in part from the older book,

0:56.0

American Prometheus, about Oppenheimer. The decision was made by what was called the

1:01.5

interim committee. This is the Truman administration following the passing of Franklin Delano Roosevelt in

1:07.6

April. The interim committee was chaired by Henry Stimson, the war secretary, who was aided by the

1:15.5

man about to become Secretary of State, Jimmy Burns of South Carolina. There were other

1:20.4

distinguished representatives of government and industry and universities on the committee.

1:27.4

A scientific panel, however, included Enrico Fermi and Mr. Oppenheimer, who was charged with

1:34.0

building the bombs in New Mexico. The decision was made on the basis of what cities had not been

1:41.7

firebombed by Curtis Lemay, the previous months, beginning with the firebombing of Tokyo in March.

1:51.4

The decision was Hiroshima, imagining there would be a factory surrounded by workers' buildings,

1:58.6

and the explanation would be we were damaging the war effort to force the Japanese

2:04.8

military council that was ruling the nation to surrender. That was the understanding. What I

2:11.2

learned from Charlie is the interim committee had very incomplete knowledge of the

2:17.1

damage the bomb would do, not only to the immediate surroundings how large the explosion

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