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visit business. Talk. UK. Good evening. Tonight on the show this is the 13th

of November 2023. Begin with a conversation about a former Secretary General of NATO, Mr.

Rasmussen, who proposed in the Guardian newspaper a very prominent paper in Europe out of

London, understood prominent paper in Europe out of London understood it be on the left side of the

story. A proposal by Mr. Rasmussen that the Ukraine war be settled right now, that Ukraine accept that Russia is decamped in

Danbassen, Crimea, and will remain there, and that Ukraine immediately apply for and

obtain Ukraine immediately apply for and obtain the NATO membership protecting it perpetuity from Russian aggression.

That's his proposal.

There is also the matter of Odessa, which now and again

Russia claims as part of Nova Rassia,

details to be worked out.

However, I discuss this with Katrina Venon of the nation looking for a way to settle a dispute that right now both sides are demonstrating that it's a stalemate.

I turn to the question of what weapon systems

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