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I did feel the whole time he was watching me Yeti. I saw a footprint and that really gave me gusmas.

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We hope you enjoy what you're about to hear. The voice of Benito Mussolini, not this week's great life, good heavens know, but a force that very largely shaped and finally ended the life we're

going to discuss. It's the life of someone who struggled against the rise of fascism in Italy

and was a result imprisoned for a long time, separated from his family,

but remained true to his beliefs and practiced them behind bars.

This could, our guest suggests, be the story of Nelson Mandela, but while Mandela's struggle

had a happy ending, that of Antonio Gramsci ended in tragedy. Our guest today is Dr. Tom Shakespeare, senior lecturer at the Medical

School in the University of East Anglia and a leading campaigner for the rights of

disabled people. He has a background in sociology and ethics, is the author of books

on the politics of disability. And Tom, are you serious about the Mandela parallel? I'd never

heard of Antonio Gramsci before we started on this

program. Why should I have? Should our listeners? Why? I think they should have done. I

know they won't have done. Like Mandela, Gramsci was a communist. That's not

very fashionable anymore. Like Mandela, he was not defeated, not bowed. He ran classes while he was in prison.

That man he started the program with Benito Mussolini.

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