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Tetragrammaton with Rick Rubin

Tom O'Neill

Tetragrammaton with Rick Rubin

Rick Rubin

Society & Culture, Arts, Philosophy

4.6908 Ratings

🗓️ 22 May 2024

⏱️ 163 minutes

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Summary

Tom O'Neill is an award-winning investigative journalist and entertainment reporter. His book, Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties, is the culmination of a 20-year investigation, which unearthed information about the murders, the murderers, the prosecutors who tried them, and the complex web of connections between Charles Manson, the CIA's MKUltra program, the counterculture movement, and other powerful individuals during the 1960s. His investigative stories, such as the cut-throat battles among daytime talk-show producers (“Welcome to the Jungle”), the stalking and murder of actress Rebecca Schaeffer (“Dangerous Minds”), and the unsolved slaying of a Hollywood starlet (“The Life and Death of Miss Hollywood”) have appeared in national publications like Us, Premiere, New York, The Village Voice, and Details. His exposé on sexism at Saturday Night Live (“The Incredible Shrinking Women of Saturday Night Live”) earned him an Exceptional Merit Media Award from the National Women's Political Caucus and Radcliffe College in 1995. ------ Thank you to the sponsors that fuel our podcast and our team: LMNT Electrolytes https://drinklmnt.com/tetra ------ Squarespace https://squarespace.com/tetra ------ Lucy https://lucy.co/tetra ------ House of Macadamias https://www.houseofmacadamias.com/tetra

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0:00.0

Tetragrammatine

0:07.0

The deeper I got, I started working harder and more hours because I kept feeling like if I don't keep going, if I lose momentum, I'll never finish.

0:35.4

And if you know the book, it goes out into a lot of different subjects and areas.

0:40.8

And I always felt behind.

0:42.5

So it got to be seven days a week.

0:45.0

And I was literally working about an average of eight to 12 hours a day.

0:49.7

I mean, I wouldn't eat dinner until nine.

0:51.9

If I ate dinner, I couldn't work after dinner.

0:53.9

So I try to put it off till 9.

0:55.7

I'd take a break.

0:56.9

I had a dog, a neighbor's dog, that I would walk a couple times a day.

1:00.0

So I get that hour of fresh air, and then I go to the gym for an hour.

1:04.2

But other than that, it was just constant.

1:08.0

Do you think of yourself as an investigative journalist?

1:11.6

Well, actually, I was doing it for a few years before this.

1:15.6

This was my first book, and it was my first real heavy investigative piece, but I had done the story prior I had been asked to do as, well, actually, I pitched it to Details Magazine, a story about a woman who was mysteriously killed.

1:31.1

And she lived in L.A. and it was a classic small town beauty queen, Michigan girl comes out here to think she's going to be, you know, a star, the next Madonna, singer, actress.

1:41.4

And she ends up getting killed and left in a pit. It was the 50th anniversary

1:47.7

to the week of the Black Dahlia murder, which was famously an unsolved murder of a Midwestern

1:53.6

girl. She wasn't cut in half like Elizabeth Short, but she was stabbed and left there about three,

2:00.0

four days before her body was discovered by vagrants,

2:03.2

and then she wasn't identified for a week.

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