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🗓️ 13 June 2011
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0:00.0 | Welcome to Econ Talk, part of the Library of Economics and Liberty. I'm your host Russ Roberts |
0:13.9 | of George Mason University and Stanford University's Hoover Institution. Our website is econtalk.org |
0:21.2 | where you can subscribe, find other episodes, comment on this podcast, and find links to |
0:26.5 | other information related to today's conversation. Our email address is mailadicontalk.org. We'd |
0:33.6 | love to hear from you. Today is June 6, 2011, and my guest is Todd Buckholz. His latest |
0:43.4 | book is Rush. Why you need and love the rat race. Todd, welcome to Econ Talk. Good to be with |
0:49.8 | you, Russ. Todd, your book is a slap in the face to most self-help books, and it's a fascinating |
0:58.6 | read, very contrarian, could only have been written by an economist. And you start by attacking |
1:04.9 | the idea that many people hold as a utopia and ideal, which is we need to get back to the |
1:12.1 | Garden of Eden or something like it. What's wrong with Eden? Well, Eden was a great place |
1:18.2 | for what I've read thousands of years ago. Of course, it was lush, and Adam and Eve didn't |
1:26.6 | have to work, and the fruit was there for the pickings, if you're willing to take a chance. |
1:32.9 | But we can't go back there anymore. Humans have evolved since then. Our expectations have |
1:38.7 | evolved. Our brains, our psychological makeup has evolved. And while Eden and Paradise still |
1:46.7 | has this captivating aspect to it that attracts people throughout the world, throughout cultures, |
1:53.5 | they may not call it Eden, but the same idea of some Paradise. It's just not something we're going |
1:57.9 | to find in our lives. And the idea of changing public policy in order to create Eden, in order |
2:06.0 | to stomp out competition strikes me as a pretty reckless way to run one's life or to run |
2:12.1 | an economy. But it's a very commonly held view, particularly among many economists, that |
2:19.6 | competition's destructive inequality is harmful, and the ideal. We may not get there, like you say, |
2:27.2 | we may not literally be able to go back there, but that's what we ought to be striving for. And you |
2:32.4 | don't even agree with that. You know, there were simpler days, not all that long ago, we could go |
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