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The Conversation with Dasha Burns

To resist Trump or work with him? This governor says you can do both.

The Conversation with Dasha Burns

POLITICO

Government, Politics, News

4.41.5K Ratings

🗓️ 21 February 2025

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Colorado Gov. Jared Polis has an independent streak and a big job leading the National Governors Association. Here’s what he’s telling fellow governors about when to work with Trump and when to oppose him, how he thinks that Trump is hurting himself, and what the first thing Elon Musk and DOGE should cut is.  Eugene Daniels is a Playbook co-author for POLITICO. Jared Polis is the Governor of Colorado. Kara Tabor is a producer for POLITICO audio.  Alex Keeney is a senior producer for POLITICO audio. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Is there anything more Washington than a fly-in?

0:05.0

I'm talking about the great capital tradition of getting everyone from the 50 states in town

0:10.0

and unleashing them on the halls of Congress for a few days of lobbying on behalf of farm bureaus,

0:16.0

realtors associations, and chambers of commerce.

0:19.0

Well, governor's got to be heard too.

0:22.2

And this week, if you think you saw Westmore's shiny head or Glenn Youngens Patagonia

0:26.6

vests walking by, well, you probably did.

0:29.8

That's because the National Governors Association's winter meeting is happening here in town.

0:34.8

And the Republicans and Democrats attending have a lot to talk about.

0:38.3

I think that governors across the board respect our democracy.

0:42.3

They might express that in different ways, but there's times when that takes, you know, court actions.

0:48.3

There's times when that takes media and public relations campaigns.

0:52.3

The man in charge of the NGA is Colorado Governor Jared Polis, who you probably know

0:57.3

for his political unpredictability.

1:00.7

Most recently, he caught some heat for backing a few of HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy

1:05.4

Jr.'s ideas to make America healthy again.

1:09.0

Before that, he was an advocate for a balanced-to-budget and lenient COVID policies,

1:13.6

but also a fierce proponent for same-sex marriage, legal marijuana, and dreamers.

1:17.6

You get the idea.

1:19.6

Polis has some big fish to fry this week.

1:22.6

He and his fellow governors are in the tough position of responding to the frantic pace of policymaking coming from Trump

1:28.6

where issues like tariffs and immigration enforcement are about to have a tangible effect on their

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