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Notes from America with Kai Wright

To Protect and Observe: A History

Notes from America with Kai Wright

WNYC Studios

News Commentary, Politics, History, News

4.41.5K Ratings

🗓️ 26 July 2021

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Today’s viral videos of police abuse have a long political lineage. But what if one of the oldest tools of copwatching is now taken away? Ron Wilkins takes us back to 1966, in the wake of the Watts uprising, in which he joined an early cop watch program -- one that would inspire the likes of the Black Panther Party for Self-Defense. Then, reporter Jenny Casas introduces us to journalists and activists who have been using police scanners for decades to peek inside the infamously closed world of police departments. Many departments are now trying to end the practice. Special thanks to Andy Lanset and KQED for the archival tape. And transformative justice organizer Ejeris Dixon, who is the Founding Director of Vision Change Win and editor of Beyond Survival: Strategies and Stories from the Transformative Justice Movement, joins Kai to take calls about how communities can keep themselves safe without - and from - police intervention. Companion listening for this episode: Do We Need the Police at All? (April 26, 2021) The answer isn’t simple, but it’s time to ask. Listeners weigh in with stories of their own efforts to solve problems with and without cops. Collective Loss, Collective Care (March 15, 2021) We’re looking back at a year with Covid-19 to reflect on our tremendous losses and the remarkable ways communities have come together to take care of themselves. “The United States of Anxiety” airs live on Sunday evenings at 6pm ET. The podcast episodes are lightly edited from our live broadcasts. To catch all the action, tune into the show on Sunday nights via the stream on WNYC.org/anxiety or tell your smart speakers to play WNYC. We want to hear from you! Connect with us on Twitter @WNYC using the hashtag #USofAnxiety or email us at [email protected].

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0:00.0

This is the United States of Anxiety, a show about the unfinished business of our history and its grip on our future.

0:08.0

Should you be allowed to listen in as first responders respond to a crime?

0:12.0

Will free speech advocates argue yes.

0:14.5

You call back to let it says.

0:16.1

This app creates the transparency that allows all of us to be safer.

0:20.6

How will you know if there's news?

0:22.4

If the NYPD decides that they don't want you to know, you're not going to know.

0:27.0

It's not a conversation by cameras. It's a conversation about surveillance.

0:30.0

We're not there to catch video of police. at We've all been raised in infrastructure that thinks that the way that you saw violence is through

0:44.1

policing.

0:45.1

It's not just actually being safe, it's feeling safe, and there's a huge distinction there.

0:49.1

And what I would tell them is that you're part of this, you're part of the solution here. Welcome to the show.

0:57.0

I'm Kai Wright.

0:59.0

Before we get started tonight, I want to note the death of civil rights organizer Bob Moses.

1:05.0

He passed earlier this evening at the age of 86.

1:08.6

We talked a lot about voting rights lately.

1:10.8

Bob Moses was among those who helped create the right we are now fighting to keep.

1:15.8

So rest in peace, sir.

1:18.3

This spring, Darnella Frazier gained reluctant notoriety as the person who documented George Floyd's murder.

1:24.0

The 17-year-old young woman was walking with her nine-year-old cousin

1:28.4

when she saw Floyd struggling for his life and turned on her phone's camera.

1:32.3

Without that recording there would likely be little

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