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The Daily Stoic

To Find Pleasure, Look for Purpose

The Daily Stoic

Daily Stoic | Wondery

Education, Daily Stoic, Society & Culture, Stoic, Stoicism, Self-improvement, Business, Stoic Philosophy, Philosophy, Ryan Holiday

4.64.7K Ratings

🗓️ 8 March 2023

⏱️ 3 minutes

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Summary

It might seem like the Stoics didn’t have fun, didn’t experience pleasure. They did write, after all, quite a bit about the emptiness of chasing sex or money or fine wines. But just because they scorned excess luxury and comfort doesn’t mean their lives were empty and joyless.

Quite the contrary.

In his book The Expanding Circle, the philosopher Peter Singer (who was on a great episode of the Daily Stoic podcast recently if you haven’t listened) explains that what they were actually doing was trying to avoid the paradox of hedonism.

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0:10.9

Welcome to the Daily Stoic Podcast, where each day we bring you a passage of ancient wisdom

0:16.6

designed to help you find strength, insight, and wisdom every day life.

0:20.8

Each one of these passages is based on the 2,000 year old philosophy that has guided some

0:25.1

of history's greatest men and women.

0:27.8

For more, you can visit us dailystoic.com.

0:36.8

To find pleasure, look for purpose.

0:40.4

It might seem like the Stoics didn't have any fun.

0:42.6

They didn't experience pleasure.

0:44.6

They did right after all quite a bit about the emptiness of chasing sex or money or fine

0:49.1

wines.

0:50.1

But just because they scorned luxury and comfort doesn't mean their lives were empty

0:54.0

and joyless.

0:55.3

Quite the contrary.

0:56.3

In his book, The Expanding Circle, the philosopher Peter Singer, who was a great recent guest

1:01.3

on the Daily Stoic Podcast, if you haven't listened, he explained that what they were actually

1:05.8

trying to do was avoid the paradox of hedonism.

1:10.2

It's interesting, he writes, that those who seek their own pleasure do not find it and

1:14.1

those who do not seek it find it anyway.

1:16.6

The pleasures of a self-centered life eventually fall and the drive for still higher levels

1:21.9

of luxury and delight brings not lasting satisfaction.

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