And welcome to our second installment of TLF tackles who killed W.C.W. the series from Vice TV. It's our companion pod here on the show on the lapsed fan to the series and episode two is

now in the books and with us to talk about it is I think he could say the guy who kind of

wrote the book that started at all in many ways that being of course the debate

over how and why W.C. W. W. collapsed. R. Alveriz is the co-author of the

death of W.C.W.

Which was first released in 2004 with the revised an expanded edition

coming out in 2014. He's also the co-proprietor and podcast host at

Wrestling Observer Figu4 online.

And he chronicle W. W. W.'s rise and fall weekly in his figure 4 newsletter.

He's also author, he's also author rather pardon of 100 things W. W. W. Fans should know and

do before they die.

Still alive, Brian, so I'm still working on the list, but really grateful that you

joined us here to talk about this series.

Yeah, thanks for having me.

Yeah, this is great.

So we'll start with the same question for you that we'll have for all the guests. Who killed W. C. W. Go. A bunch of people killed W.C. W. W. W. in 2024. You know, I can't believe we're talking about who killed W.C.W. in 2024.

It's like there's part of me that's just aghast that we're still going back to this.

But I actually received a royalty check yesterday for

death of W.C.W. which is still selling copies and so from that perspective I'm glad we're still talking about it but other

net is like do we have nothing else to talk about in wrestling that what killed a company

25 years ago? Apparently not.

I mean there's so much interest and you know the thing is as you know

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