TIVP020: Visa (V): Is Visa still the Card to Hold? w/ Daniel Mahncke & Shawn O’Malley

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🗓️ 18 May 2025

⏱️ 83 minutes

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Daniel Mahncke and Shawn O’Malley break down Visa (ticker: V), the global payments powerhouse that acts as the invisible engine behind billions of transactions every day. Visa doesn’t issue cards, lend money, or handle customer accounts — instead, it operates the network that connects banks, merchants, and consumers in over 200 countries. Whether you’re tapping your card for a coffee, shopping online, or sending money abroad, there’s a good chance Visa is taking a small slice behind the scenes. Visa is to the global economy what highways are to cars — an essential infrastructure layer that makes modern commerce move. In this episode, you’ll learn how Visa evolved from a consortium of banks to a dominant public company, how it defends its massive competitive moat, where growth will come from beyond traditional card payments, whether emerging technologies like account-to-account payments pose a real threat, how to think about Visa’s valuation, plus so much more! Prefer to watch? Click ⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠ to watch this episode on YouTube. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN 00:00 - Intro 03:04 - How Visa’s business model works and how it earns money from transactions17:49 - Why every player in the payment process needs Visa26:54 - Visa’s origin story and how BofA’s BankAmericard changed banking forever55:36 - Where Visa’s growth will come from in the future47:50 - What are Visa’s Value Added Services and New Flows57:44 - Why Visa’s Moat is so impenetrable1:01:31 - Who are Visa’s competitors and what are the overarching risks1:10:07 - Whether Visa is attractively valued at current levels1:19:10 - Whether Shawn & Daniel add V to The Intrinsic Value Portfolio *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Get smarter about valuing businesses in just a few minutes each week through our newsletter, ⁠⁠⁠The Intrinsic Value Newsletter⁠⁠⁠. Visa’s latest Annual Report. Book to understand Payments: The Pay Off. The Acquired Podcast on Visa. Visa Investor Day 2025 Presentation. Check out our previous Intrinsic Value breakdowns: ⁠⁠⁠Nintendo⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠Airbnb⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠AutoZone⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠Alphabet⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠Ulta⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠John Deere⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠Madison Square Garden Sports⁠⁠⁠. Check out the books mentioned in the podcast ⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠. Enjoy ad-free episodes when you subscribe to our ⁠⁠⁠Premium Feed⁠⁠⁠. NEW TO THE SHOW? Follow our official social media accounts: ⁠⁠⁠X (Twitter)⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠. Browse through all our episodes (complete with transcripts) ⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠. Try Shawn's favorite tool for picking stock winners and managing our portfolios: ⁠⁠⁠TIP Finance⁠⁠⁠. Enjoy exclusive perks from our ⁠⁠⁠favorite Apps and Services⁠⁠⁠. Learn how to better start, manage, and grow your business with the ⁠⁠⁠best business podcasts⁠⁠⁠. SPONSORS Support our free podcast by supporting our sponsors: • CFI Education • ⁠Airbnb Connect with Shawn: ⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠Email⁠⁠⁠ Connect with Daniel: ⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠Email⁠⁠⁠ HELP US OUT! Help us reach new listeners by leaving us a ⁠⁠⁠rating and review⁠⁠⁠ on ⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠! It takes less than 30 seconds and really helps our show grow, which allows us to bring on even better guests for you all! Thank you – we really appreciate it! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm

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0:00.0	People just expect their cards to work anywhere instantly and with no hiccups.
0:05.5	I think the uptime for the Visa network is 99.999%.
0:10.0	That's just huge.
0:12.4	So it's not enough to be good.
0:14.2	And network must be absolutely flawless.
0:16.8	And Visa has been perfecting this for decades.
0:18.8	And finally, Visa doesn't just offer technology.
0:21.6	It's also huge on incentives.
0:23.6	So just last year, Visa spent almost $14 billion on incentives.
0:28.6	So when you add it all up, global reach, brand trust, reliable tag, and then those direct incentives,
0:35.6	Visa just becomes an obvious partner,
0:38.1	even for those bigger banks in the world that might have the resources to build their own network.
0:49.5	Hey, everyone.
0:50.7	Today, my co-host, Daniel Manka, is back with another company pitch. And this time,
0:55.8	we are diving into a business that is sort of quietly involved in every purchase you make, or
1:01.9	almost so. And that maybe sounds a little bit ominous, but it is true. And whether you're buying
1:06.3	groceries, booking a flight, paying back a friend or tapping your phone at a coffee shop,
1:10.9	there is a good chance that this company earned a small slice of that transaction,
1:15.7	maybe without even realizing it.
1:17.3	It doesn't manufacture anything.
1:18.8	It doesn't sell directly to consumers even,
1:21.2	but it processes hundreds of billions of transactions a year.
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