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Life and Art from FT Weekend

Tina Brown and Simon Schama on the royal family

Life and Art from FT Weekend

Forhecz Topher

Tv & Film, Arts, Society & Culture

4.6601 Ratings

🗓️ 4 June 2022

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

This weekend, we're marking the Queen's Platinum Jubilee with a spirited discussion on what’s next for the Windsors. Tina Brown, author The Palace Papers, speaks with historian Simon Schama and HTSI editor Jo Ellison about the state of the royal family. As Britain celebrates 70 years of Elizabeth II on the crown, what will the royal family look like over the next decade? We bring you this conversation from the recent US FT Weekend festival stage.

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Links and mentions from the episode: 

– FT interview with Tina Brown, by Andrew Edgecliffe-Johnson: ‘Nobody is remotely real around royals’ https://on.ft.com/3v19UqW 

– Tina’s new book is called The Palace Papers: Inside the House of Windsor--the Truth and the Turmoil

– Jo is on Twitter @jellison and Instagram @jellison22. Tina is On Twitter @TinaBrownLM. Simon is on Twitter @simon_schama.

– You can watch the full interview with Tina, Jo and Simon by buying an on-demand pass to the FT Weekend festival: https://usftweekendfestival.live.ft.com/page/2064102/program  

A few more great FT Weekend pieces on the Jubilee:

– Simon Okotie: ‘Why, after all, I will celebrate the Jubilee’ https://on.ft.com/3xfTj3I 

– Sarfraz Manzoor: ‘A constant Queen for a changing realm’ https://on.ft.com/3zhkooK 

– Nilanjana Roy: ‘Elizabeth in India: the steel beneath the hats’ https://on.ft.com/38L5P1G 

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Original music by Metaphor Music. Mixing and sound design by Breen Turner and Sam Giovinco.


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0:00.0

It was exactly 70 years ago that the Queen of England was crowned.

0:05.9

And an anniversary like that deserves a party, right?

0:09.7

Especially when the Queen is 96, and this is likely her last decade wearing the crown.

0:16.2

Enter the Platinum Royal Jubilee.

0:19.7

This weekend, Britain has a four-day bank holiday with two days off work to

0:24.7

celebrate. So while our colleagues in the UK enjoy Corgi-themed tea parties and drag queen bingoes

0:32.5

and brunches, those are all actually happening. We're bringing you a session we recorded recently at the USFT Weekend Festival.

0:40.6

It's about what's next for the Windsors.

0:42.6

And it's between three heavy hitters.

0:44.9

Joe Ellison, the editor of How to Spend It, which is recently renamed HTSI,

0:49.7

Simon Shama, the great historian, documentarian, and writer.

0:57.0

And Tina Brown, former editor of the New Yorker,

1:02.6

matriarch of the media world, and author of the recently published book The Palace Papers.

1:06.2

Please enjoy. The conversation begins with Joe.

1:11.5

Tina, you've just written a fabulous book. It's a brilliant overview of the last 25 years,

1:16.2

but also preceding that several decades' worth of good royal juice.

1:21.2

What is the state of health of the Windsors, as you see it today?

1:30.2

I think it's perilous because all the kind of mayhem and scattles and difficulties that have happened in the last 25 years were always going to be all right because at the centre of it all was this calm, composed,

1:38.0

kind of preternaturally judicious monarch, Elizabeth II, and keeping calm and carrying on, and while she was there to sort of

1:46.7

pull it all together, represent sense and sanity, everything in the end we all knew was going to be

1:51.9

all right. The problem is that a lot of the mayhem of the last few years is happening at a time

1:57.2

when the Queen is very frail and we're looking at her twilight years and so there is

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