In the episode of Rules for Retrogrades that you're about to watch or listen to, we, which is now completed, we're about to release it, it's interesting because it's on dating, which we've covered some as stalwart, well-known

opponents of feminism, male and female.

And my brother is co-author on my forthcoming No Christian Feminism book.

Steph has her own book, Ask Your Husband, aptly named. I feel like it probably falls to me,

Timothy Gordon, yours truly, to give these tips about dating, not just because I'm the

stalwart opponent of feminism, but because personally, autobiographically,

I have a lot of experience dating,

even though by today's standards,

Steph and I got married relatively young.

We were in the same friend group for many years,

and she met many of the girls I dated.

I dated extensively. I dated extensively in a

mostly old fashioned context, a kind of new old fashioned context where I would go on dates.

And from really my sophomore year of college to my senior year of college, I fit in more straight up dating than I think anyone

I've ever talked to.

As soon as my band broke up in early college,

I stuck to the books and to dating.

I really made a science out of trying to get the best made. And all the while,

I was falling in love with my friend Stephanie here. Who I was dating his best friend at the time.

So, you know, we were kind of like our friendship kind of grew into, you know, us,

us dating, you know,

and during this time,

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