A number of guys I was talking with were trying to understand this behavior and why there was such a market for it.

And the answer I told them is like, guys, you're not people to Candace Owen's audience, your characters in a TV show, right?

Right.

Like your death on a TV screen is just a plot twist.

You don't have a family. I mean, look at the way

that people are treating Erica Kirk as she's trying to raise these poor children after being

widowed in this incredibly violent act. But, you know, you would never say something like

what's being said about Erica Kirk to anyone's face. And you shouldn't, if you do, you wouldn't

walk out of a room with me in it. I opened up, obviously, addressing Tim's, I'm calling it a Patriot crash out. I was emphasizing that I use Crashout as a term of endearment. I correctly identified that when someone I don't like is having a moment, it's a Spurge out. And then when it's a patriot it's a crash out so i use that as a term of

endearment i wanted to bring you in and get your thoughts on last night and sort of overall your

thoughts on candace and uh her role in this movement so uh i'll give you the floor here yeah i mean

i can certainly understand tim's frustration especially given all the security concerns and everything else happening there.

I think ultimately he recognizes that pushing different narratives about nefarious actors inside the Republican Party conservative movements, these kind of things, you know, artificially attributing fault to different people.

This can drive people to ridiculous and radical action. I mean, obviously, we don't know if that's

what happened in this case. We don't have enough information, but we've seen the way in which

leftist propaganda and other suggestions about the fact that different actors are behind, you know, violence or corrupting

different things is going to drive people towards these conspiracy theories and make them

more likely to take, you know, some kind of violent action.

I will say that it's been interesting to watch this development.

I don't know how many people remember this, but for those

of us who have been around since Gamergate, the deep lore from Candace Owens originally was that she

ran this site social autopsy, which was basically like a doxing service to try to ruin the life

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