Tim O'Reilly: "It's our brains that are being hacked"

The Times Tech Podcast

Will Morley

Business, Unknown, Technology

4.9 • 654 Ratings

🗓️ 26 January 2018

⏱️ 42 minutes

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The Sunday Times tech correspondent Danny Fortson brings on Tim O’Reilly, oracle of the tech industry, to talk about why 2017 may go down as a watershed year (3:00), how Facebook is like Microsoft (4:25), what’s wrong with tech’s “master algorithm” (7:15), exploding the myth of the rise of the machines (9:50), the era of surveillance (12:25), the danger of bad laws (15:20), creating the world’s first website and formalising the open-source movement (17:40), coining the term “Web 2.0” (19:35), what World War II can tell us about tech (21:50), the need to rebuild society as we know it (24:35), why we may need to get rid of advertising altogether (25:25), why he doesn’t buy the blockchain hype (28:00), why the marriage of AI and biotech is the next big revolution (31:00), the beginning of the end of the Internet duopoly (31:55), data as the point of control (36:00), and why the 21st will be China’s (37:00).

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0:32.4	Greetings and salutations. Welcome back to Danny in the Valley, the Sunday Times Tech podcast, where every week I sit down with somebody way smarter than me to talk about what it is they're up to, whether that be bizarre or scary or hopefully always interesting to you, dear listener.
0:49.9	I've got a great show for you this week, but before we get there, I just wanted to give you a little heads up about next week.
0:55.5	I sat down with a fascinating company called Finless Foods.
1:00.5	It's kind of a weird name, but they're actually doing what it says on the tin.
1:04.2	They are growing fish meat in a lab.
1:08.3	It's not growing fish, fish meat as a way to deal with all the overfishing issues and
1:13.6	the destruction of our oceans, etc. So perhaps someday soon you will be eating a fillet of salmon
1:21.2	that was actually manufactured in a test tube. Or actually, the way they do it, they ferment it in breweries.
1:28.1	I know it sounds crazy, but it's true. So that is next week. The only other thing I have to
1:33.6	give you a heads up about, there is a bad word in this episode, the S word. Keep an eye out for it.
1:41.3	I know this is a family show, so hopefully not a big deal. Anyhow, on to
1:47.2	today's show. Yo, technology. What is it all about? The biggest thing that you have to always stay
1:55.3	with you when you are trying to think about the future is prepare to be surprised. Just imagining the things that you can
2:03.6	imagine, you will always miss things that in retrospect seem quite obvious. That was Tim O'Reilly,
2:13.2	this week's guest. If you don't know, Tim is kind of like the Oracle of Silicon Valley.
2:20.2	He's been in the industry since the late 70s.
2:23.8	He started out publishing computer manuals when people were still trying to figure out what a computer was.
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