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I was on with Ariel Reshef, who's in for Katie Turr over in MSNBC. I was on for a bunch of segments. So there was a whole cast of characters, former Senator John Tester, Paul Reichoff, independent Americans, a bunch of us. And we covered a lot of issues. So I want you to stick around. to the third segment, we really focus on Pete Hegseth,

getting in some hot water in Maga Circle. lot of issues. So I want you to stick around. A third segment, we really focus on Pete Hegseth,

getting in some hot water in Maga circles. General's speaking out against him and speaking out

against some two right wing outlets, the Washington Times, so the big takeout story, that should be a

red flag for him. So we talked about that in addition to his free speech crackdown. We get into the

demolition of the East Wing and I kind of get into my take about how the corruption side of this

I think may end up being the most important political story. Obviously, the actual demolition

has more historic and emotional impact. But I think the corruption side of this is something that

absolutely has to be focused on. Then the first thing, we do a lot of shutdown talk. Having

Tester on was interesting because the frame of this conversation was just about how there's not

a lot of political incentive to end the shutdown about regular people are getting the brunt of it.

And in Testers' conversation, he was pointing out that there is in Montana programs, you know,

energy programs, other public works programs that have government support and then obviously benefits

that people are getting, people are losing this in a state that voted overwhelmingly for Trump,

that voted overwhelmingly to boot him out the last round in the U.S. Senate.

And so it's Trump's own voters that are suffering the consequences of this shutdown.

And it's real.

It's painful.

It's lost jobs.

It's lost benefits.

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