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Tim Miller: People Will Be ASHAMED for Being Involved in This

Bulwark Takes

The Bulwark

Society & Culture, News Commentary, News, Politics

4.71.2K Ratings

🗓️ 8 October 2025

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

Tim Miller joins Nicolle Wallace on MSNBC’s Deadline: White House to discuss the alarming National Guard escalation in Chicago, DHS using Zach Bryan’s music as propaganda, and his interview with Kevin Clancy from Barstool Sports.

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0:00.0

Hey, everybody, Timmo from the Bullwork here. I was on Nicole for a whole hour, and it was,

0:05.2

it's a lot, man. There's so much happening right now. It takes a toll on you emotionally sometimes.

0:12.1

But we talked about Jacob Silverhouse's great reporting from Chicago, just about these tragic

0:16.9

stories of people getting snatched off the street by these masked dogs. And we kind of

0:21.4

talked a big picture about that. Tom Nichols, my pal was on as well about what the rationale

0:28.6

is from the administration, what they're trying to get out of this, the power grab, how that

0:33.5

could be pushed back against. And then it ended with a conversation about Zach Bryan and his song about Ice.

0:39.0

And I talked about quite a lot on the show, but I want to give you a little bit more,

0:45.6

actually, background.

0:47.1

As I say, I don't, I'm not a Zach Ryan fan.

0:49.6

I don't know that I've even heard one of his songs before today.

0:53.4

Maybe I have just don't know it.

0:55.2

I do remember that Beto told me he was a Zach Bryan fan.

0:58.1

So I made me think maybe I should check him out.

0:59.5

But I never have.

1:01.9

And I do know that he sells out massive, massive stadiums.

1:06.4

He's mass market, right?

1:07.5

So obviously there are red mega Americans that like Zach Ryan.

1:15.3

And so the first, I think the first song of his I ever heard, at least knowingly, was

1:21.3

this song revival, which I guess he ends his sets with, according to one of my buddies.

1:28.0

And the DHS used that song to troll him.

1:33.7

And they didn't play the clip on MSNBC.

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