Hi, Gary Stearman of Prophecy Watchers. I've got a very special guest with me today. His name is Tim Mahoney. He is a filmmaker, film producer, director of the first quality, and he's put out some wonderful films, the latest of which we're going to discuss in a few moments. But right now, here's Tim.

Well, thanks for having me on the show again, Gary. I really appreciate it.

We appreciate having you, and you and I have talked, and I have confessed to you

the fact that your films have an emotional effect on me. And, you know, when you pay your $6 or whatever it is for a ticket and you go into the

movies and sit down, traditionally you want to be moved by something.

You've paid your money.

You really want to be emotionally involved in this thing.

And a lot of movies fall far short of that.

Yours, however, I have to say, have a history

of just moving me. At one point almost to tears as you disclosed a discovery about Moses.

You've done patterns of evidence, the Moses controversy, the Red Sea Miracle, Part 1, and we're going to be talking

about Part 2, but in the Moses controversy, the emotional truth that comes through that film

is just memorable.

You know, that film was a film that I had no plans of making.

It was a complete surprise to me, actually working on

that. But I could tell that in our, in fact, our very first film, as you might remember, was called

Patterns of Evidence to the Exodus. And that film was a film that I ended up actually after,

right in the very beginning, had a crisis of faith. I thought I was going to go find evidence for the Bible and I came back with doubts.

And the emotional journey for me was being able to find answers to big questions that I had about the Bible.

And that's the journey that is in that first film.

Then the second film was also part of answering some big questions

because I was told that there was no evidence that Moses existed,

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