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Do you like your gravy thick and rich and loaded with creamy mushrooms?

If no one was looking, would you chug the whole gravy boat?

Chug, chug, chug, chug.

Stay tuned. Here comes Mr. Chug-aug, chug, chug, chug. Stay tuned.

Here comes Mr. Chug-a-lug himself, Eric Mattaxas.

Hey, folks, welcome to the program.

I have as my guest today for the full hour, an old friend, Tim Gagline, I dare you to spell that.

It's even tougher than metaxus.

There's just mines everywhere.

There's no way you get it right the first time.

But Timothy S. Gagline is the vice president of external and government relations for focus on the family.

He has a new book out, the author of many books, but this book strikes me as particularly

important. The title of it is toward a more perfect union, the moral and cultural case for

teaching the great American story. This is something that is very, very close to my heart, and it's my joy

to have Tim Gigline back as my guest. Tim, welcome. Thank you so much, Eric. It's really a

pleasure to be with you. Well, congratulations on the book. As I just mentioned, this idea,

you say toward a more perfect union, the moral and cultural

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