Tim Ballard vs. the Mormon "Deep Church" w/ Carah Burrell! | Ep. 2082

Mormon Stories Podcast

Dr. John Dehlin

Religion & Spirituality

4.6 • 5.2K Ratings

🗓️ 11 November 2025

⏱️ 217 minutes

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Summary

In this explosive deep-dive, John Dehlin and Carah Burrell unpack the shocking rise, fall, and reinvention of Tim Ballard, the founder of Operation Underground Railroad and former ally of the LDS Church, as well as the self-styled hero of the Sound of Freedom movie.

From his alleged misconduct and excommunication to conspiracy claims about “The Deep Church,” Tim Ballard’s story intertwines faith, politics, and power in ways that continue to shake the Mormon and evangelical words.

Join us as we trace the full timeline –from his early missions and fundraising empire to the lawsuits, psychic consultations, and his recent pivot toward Christian nationalism and political ambition.

Watch till the end for breaking developments, exclusive insights, and what this all means for the future of Mormonism, OUR, and Ballard’s next moves!

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0:00.0	Hello, everyone, and welcome to another edition of Mormon Stories podcast.
0:03.7	This is a special edition of Mormon Stories podcast because we got the band back together.
0:10.9	Kara Barrow!
0:11.9	This old girl's in the house.
0:13.5	What the heck are you doing in Mormon Story Studio?
0:16.1	I thought you resigned and left me in scandal.
0:19.4	But when left you in scandal? Nope, I tried, but I didn't succeed. Other people took that place for sure. You know, I just pursued my interests, and that's taking down real bad guys who get ex-manicated from the Mormon church. John DeLine, you are not in my sights. Tim Ballard is where I... Yet, yet.
0:38.2	Yet.
0:38.8	The day is young.
0:39.9	I have to watch it.
0:41.4	Anyway, it's great to have you, Kara.
0:43.4	Today we are here to talk about new Tim Ballard news.
0:47.0	And honestly, if you had asked me a month ago, I would have never guessed I would be covering
0:52.6	Tim Ballard to again on Mormon stories.
0:55.2	I kind of figured he was old news.
0:58.0	But Tim Ballard has come back with a vengeance.
1:01.1	Some would say he's jumped the shark.
1:03.6	Some would say he's leading a full-on assault on the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
1:10.6	And some of you are saying, who the freak is, Tim Ballard.
1:14.7	So we've got a lot to cover tonight.
1:16.7	Kara, remind people who you are and why you're awesome and also why you are an expert on Tim Ballard.
1:25.2	Who I am.
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